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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: piratejenny on Tuesday 12 July 11 03:10 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I have a Philip Drewitt (b 1855) and Eliza Ann Sansum (b 1863) married in 1881 in Wantage. They had a number of children, including Kate (who my husband's family descends from). Kate was born in 1881. The issue I have is that the family trees I've seen have Eliza dying in 1882, but also have children born after 1882. So there's Leah (b 1880, which is curious if the marriage is listed as 1881), Arthur in 1887, Albert in 1889, and Walter in 1900. I suspect there are some Drewitt families getting mixed up here, and possibly even some Eliza Sansums. Or that Philip had multiple marriages and they're not listed. So confusing!
The person I'm really concerned with is Kate. I have her born on 13 Dec. 1881. She married Harry Ivers and emigrated to Maine in the US, where she died in 1961. If anyone has any information or can point me in the right direction, I'd be ever so grateful.
Thanks all,
Jen
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Hi Jen
Welcome.
I can see those children that you listed as you can see below... but the parents were Joseph and Charlotte
1891 Census England Berkshire Cholsey
RG12/985/25/20
Ilges? Lane
DREWITT
Joseph Head Marr 35 Road Labourer Berkshire Blewbury
Charlotte A Wife Marr 31 Oxfordshire Cuxham
Kate Dau Unmarr 12 Berkshire Cholsey
Leah Dau Unmarr 11 Scholar Berkshire Cholsey
William Son Unmarr 8 Berkshire Cholsey
Joseph Son Unmarr 6 Berkshire Cholsey
Arthur Son Unmarr 4 Berkshier Cholsey
Albert J Son Unmarr 2 Berkshire Cholsey
Thomas Son Unmarr 10mths Berkshire Cholsey
Cheers
Karenlee
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1901 Census England Berkshire Cholsey
RG13/1138/22/
Elges Lane
DREWITT
Joseph Head Marr 46 Agricultural Labourer Berkshire Blewbury
Charlotte Wife Marr 42 oxfordshire Cooksham
Kate Dau Unmarr 22 Berkshire Cholsey
William Son Unmarr 18 Under Carter on Farm Berkshire Cholsey
Joseph Son Unmarr 16 Plough Boy Berkshire Cholsey
Jesse Son Unmarr 12 Berkshire Cholsey
Thomas Son Unmarr 10 Berkshire Cholsey
Alice Dau Unmarr 8 Berkshire Cholsey
Ernest Son Unmarr 3 Berkshire Cholsey
George Son Unmarr 2 Berkshire Cholsey
Karenlee
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FreeBMD website shows...
Marriage Register
Wallingford Berkshire
March Quarter 1878 2c 477
DREWETT Joseph
WRIGHT Charlotte Anne
Cheers
Karenlee
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This could well be your Joseph as a boy...
1871 Census England Berkshire Cholsey
RG10/1272/55/23
DREWETT
Joseph Head Marr 40 Agricultural Labourer Berkshire Cholsey
Lucy Wife Marr 35 Berkshire Cholsey
William Son Unmarr 17 Agricultural Labourer Berkshire Cholsey
Joseph Son Unmarr 15 Agricultural Labourer Berkshire Blewbury
Frederick Son Unmarr 13 Agricultural Labourer Berkshire Cholsey
Rose Dau Unmarr 9 Scholar Berkshire Cholsey
Ellen Dau Unmarr 7 Scholar Berkshire Cholsey
Walter Son Unmarr 4 Berkshire Cholsey
George Son Unmarr 2 Berkshire Cholsey
Karenlee
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It looks like Eliza Ann (who married Phillip) died
Death reg freeBMD
Eliza Ann Drewitt
mar qtr 1882
age 19
Wantage
2c 202
Suz
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1881 Census England Berkshire Cholsey
RG11/1292/26/20
Ilges Lane
DREWETT
Joseph Head Marr 24 Agricultural Labourer Berkshire Blewbury
Charlotte Wife Marr 21 Oxfordshire Cuxham
Kate Dau Unmarr 2 Berkshire Cholsey
Leah A Dau Unmarr 1 Berkshire Cholsey
Karenlee
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It seems the Kate who is daughter of Joseph & Charlotte is not your Kate
Your Kate was the only child of Phillip Drewett and Eliza Ann Samsun
I posted previously Eliza Ann Drewett died age 19 - death reg Mar qtr 1882 Wantage
This reg means she could have died between mid Dec 1881 -end Mar 1882
The same quarter as Eliza Ann died the birth of daughter kate was registered
Birth reg freeBMD
Kate drewett
Mar qtr 1882
Wantage
so kate could be born mid Dec 1881 -mar 1882
This looks like Phillip in 1891
Little London Longworth berks
Eliza Drewett head widow 74
Phillip Drewett son widower 36 Ag lab b Longworth berks
RG12 976 91 14
and his daughter Kate is with her grandparents -image spells surname Drewitt
1891
Eastmonton Hill
Sparsholt Berks
(Wantage reg distict)
John Sansum Head M 57 ag lab Sparsholt Berks
Catharine Sansum wife 65 Clack Wilts
KATE DREWITT granddaughter 9 Sparsholt Berks
Francis Selford Boarder U 20 Stableman Doncaster Yorks
RG12 982 105 7
Suz
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Marriage reg FreeBMD
Dec qtr 1899
Wantage
Kate Drewett
Henry Ivers
2c 709
and here they are in 1901
(seems they had a son before they made it to church)
Westcott
Parish Sparshott
Berks
henry Ivers head M 35 Stableman on farm Shrewsbury Shropshire
Kate Ivers wife 19 Sparshott berks
Walter Ivers Drewett son 1 Sparshott
John Ivers son 5 mths Sparshott
RG13 1136 38 8
Suz
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Another little "check" that we have the correct kate -you posted "your " Kate was b 13 dec 1881
"Joseph's" Kate appears on 1881 census age 2
1881 census was taken 3 April 1881
Hope this helps - even though it has shrunk the size of your family!!!!
Don't know what happened to Phillip - he doesn't show in 1901 or Marriages /Deaths????
Suz
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Hi,
Just to confirm the previous listing of Kate Drewitt by suzard;
Sparsholt PRs (ex BFHS);
Baptism;
26-2-1882 Kate Eliza DREWITT d/o Philip & Eliza (Deceased), Eastmanton, Groom, Sparsholt Feast [sic]
I can't find a burial for Eliza in either the Sparsholt PRs or the Berks Burial Index.
Marriage;
5-11-1881 Philip DREWITT, 23, groom, Eastmanton. s/o Henry, Shepherd to
Elizabeth Ann SANSUM, 19, Domestic Servant, Eastmanton. d/o John,Labr
wits; John Pithers, Matilda (P?) earce, Charles Hicks.
Alan
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I can't find a burial for Eliza in either the Sparsholt PRs or the Berks Burial Index.
BBI only covers Sparsholt up to 1865 at the moment.
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Hello SG,
You are so right. I had completely missed that - also the same applies for the Sparsholt burials !!
Thanks for putting me right.
Alan
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There doesn't seem to be anything later at the Berks RO. Perhaps the register is still in use at the church.
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Thanks to everyone for all the help! I don't mind the size of the family shrinking at all. :D And now the dates make sense.