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Title: A Marriage
Post by: rla10 on Sunday 10 July 11 16:46 BST (UK)
Hope no one minds me posting again, could anyone tell me the name of the groom on this one please - cannot work it out other than Thomas.

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: Sandymc47 on Sunday 10 July 11 17:31 BST (UK)
Hi Ria

Is it possible to put more of the certificate for us to view as you need
to be able to look at other lines of the scribe to see how he writes
different letters

thanks

Sandymc
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: rla10 on Sunday 10 July 11 17:37 BST (UK)
Hi Sandymc, here is the two pages. Not sure if you can see the writing or if it's too zoomed out.
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: veeblevort on Sunday 10 July 11 17:48 BST (UK)

Wow, what a scribbler he was.

The closest i can get is 'Pery' but I'm not happy with it.

vv.
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: rla10 on Sunday 10 July 11 17:50 BST (UK)

Wow, what a scribbler he was.

The closest i can get is 'Pery' but I'm not happy with it.

vv.


Thanks, v.v Someone sent me a message suggestion 'Tovey'.
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: Dazey999 on Sunday 10 July 11 17:58 BST (UK)
I keep seeing Youen, but it's a mighty big O !!
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: veeblevort on Sunday 10 July 11 18:02 BST (UK)

Yes, think the  symbol is far too big for a lower case 'o', and that it forms part of the
capital letter.

Also, I see the letter before the 'y' as an 'r', like the second 'r' in 'Margeret'

vv.
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: rla10 on Sunday 10 July 11 18:07 BST (UK)
v.v I thought the letter before the 'y' was an 'r' too, but then it's the same as an 'e' in Elizabeth in an entry below.
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: veeblevort on Sunday 10 July 11 18:50 BST (UK)

Yes. There are two more in your Margeret Lake entry, in 'were maried'.

Perhaps the best we can say is that the letter is ambiguous, and that the name ends
in 'ey' or 'ry', unless someone can see a subtle difference.

vv.
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: jancis on Sunday 10 July 11 20:33 BST (UK)
I think the first letter is a P.
On the preceeding page, just under the horizontal line is the name Powell, with the initial letter pretty much identical.
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: Colin Cruddace on Sunday 10 July 11 23:06 BST (UK)
It looks like Pery to me, so perhaps Perry or Peery in it's standard form.

Colin
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: Sandymc47 on Monday 11 July 11 14:53 BST (UK)
Hi again

I feel it looks like Tovey.
I cannot find any mention of which County you think this relative lived.
If it is Somerset or the West of England then it will be Tovey.
If you research the name Tovey, it comes from the Danish word Tovi
The Standard bearer of King Canute King of England in 999 had a helper
called Tovi the Proud.  He eventually left King Canute and started his dynasty
in Somerset.  They spead around that area.  The name of course over the
years has changed slightly in spelling. I think the scribe put a large O so
the pronounciation was on the O. This is my opinion of course.  Hope
if you know where they came from that it is Somerset or the West of
England.
I love looking up the history of things lol

regards
Sandymc  ;)   
Title: Re: A Marriage
Post by: rla10 on Monday 11 July 11 14:57 BST (UK)
Hi Sandymc, they lived in Essex. Having looked at a similar letter in the name Powell, I think the first letter is P and probably Pery. Still open to debate though  :)