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Title: R.E. Frizelle
Post by: fleenr on Saturday 09 July 11 14:36 BST (UK)
Hi

I'm trying to find information about R. E. Frizelle (1867-1953), a composer of hymn tunes.  Two of his tunes were named 'Belfast' and 'Bangor' so I'm assuming a Northern Ireland connection but have no other information.  I'd be grateful if anyway has any suggestions.

Many thanks

Nick Fleet
Tunbridge Wells, UK
Title: R.E Frizelle
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 09 July 11 15:55 BST (UK)
Any idea of his first name(s) or religion?

There's a Robinson Frizell in Co. Down here in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Kernan/Kernan/298550
Also a Robert Ernest Frizelle in Co. Down slightly younger than your date of birth-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Hollywood_Urban/Downshire_Road/233049

Here is Robert Ernest in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Holywood_Urban/Downshire_Road/1223789
In 1910 here's listed in this directory-
http://www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Holywood2.php
Title: Re: Frizelle family
Post by: fleenr on Saturday 09 July 11 16:27 BST (UK)
Wow!  Thankyou very much.  He was associated with so-called 'Plymouth Brethren' so I'm sure Robert Ernest is the one.  At least I have something to go on now and I can firm up on other details.

Thanks again - Nick
Title: Re: R.E. Frizelle
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 09 July 11 17:26 BST (UK)
Glad to know I was on the right track. Have split these posts from the Wexford thread and moved to Co. Down to see if anyone else can help with more information.

Both Robert and Robinson Frizzelle were Brethern so they might be related although it's too soon to tell.
Title: Re: R.E. Frizelle
Post by: kingskerswell on Saturday 09 July 11 19:40 BST (UK)
Hi,
  According to the www.familysearch.org site Robert Ernest Frizelle was born on 9 Mar 1872 in Downpatrick, Co. Down to William Frizelle and Annie Nealis. He may have been married twice, first to a lady called Grace and then to Meta Matthew on 14 Sept 1910 in Belfast Registrar's office, Shankill, Belfast. Unfortunately I cannot find the first marriage.

Regards
   
Title: Re: R.E. Frizelle
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 09 July 11 19:49 BST (UK)
According to the www.familysearch.org site Robert Ernest Frizelle was born on 9 Mar 1872 in Downpatrick, Co. Down to William Frizelle and Annie Nealis.
If those are the correct parents there was likely a big family- according to LDS site-
William Frizell, son of James, married 27 Apr.1850 Templemore, Co.Derry to Anne Neelis, daughter of Thomas.
1. James born 13 Feb.1864 Strabane, Co.Tyrone district (page 300 in civil register)
2. Charles born 31 Jan.1867 Londonderry City (page 202 in civil register)
Title: Re: R.E. Frizelle
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 09 July 11 20:04 BST (UK)
I'm a bit concerned about William Frizell and Anne Neelis being the parents of Robert Earnet Frizell.

Found a reference to a marriage 1900 Co.Antrim (could be Belfast) for a William Frizell, son of Robert to ? . However, I can't find any match in other indexes.
Title: Re: R.E. Frizelle
Post by: kingskerswell on Saturday 09 July 11 21:29 BST (UK)
Hi,
   11 Apr 1900 William George Frizell to Martha Wright McClelland Jamieson in Donegal Square East Methodist Church, Belfast. Unsure of your reasoning!!

Regards
Title: Re: R.E. Frizelle
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 09 July 11 21:36 BST (UK)
... and William John Frizell married Apr./June 1900 Belfast registration district volume 1 page 300 according to civil registration index.

However, the free search for this website gives a William Frizell, son of Robert, married 1900 Co.Antrim-
http://www.ancestryireland.com/database.php?filename=db_QUIS_advanced2

The record you found may be correct but a fairly uncommon name there seem to be quite a few William Frizelle's.

Interestingly, civil registration index shows a birth for Robert Eearnest Frizell 1872 Co. Down
Title: Re: R.E. Frizelle
Post by: Jennie Frizelle on Thursday 18 August 11 18:47 BST (UK)
Hi Fleenr,

I'm tracing the Frizelle family too, and I have a lot of Frizelle info, but no sign of a R. E. Frizelle. I'm after setting up a website, www.frizellefamilytree.com to share what I've found, and I have a PDF of the first seven generations of the family tree available to download there (for privacy reasons I didn't go any more recent than that, because most of the people in the 8th and subsequent generations are still alive).

If you can see how your info might slot in with what I've got, I'd love to hear from you.


Rgds,

Jennie Frizelle.
Title: Re: R.E. Frizelle
Post by: tobyma123 on Saturday 07 January 12 18:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Jenny,i have a Agnes Frizell married my gregrandfathers brother John in 1845 born abt 1825,Donaghmore Presbyterian church daughter of William Frizell as far as i know 3 children went to the usa,regards tobyma123. :)