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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Dorset => England => Dorset Lookup Requests => Topic started by: billinbrighton on Thursday 07 July 11 11:38 BST (UK)
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A good friend of mine wants to know some of her family history for her 60th birthday.
Her name is Amanda Jane Jordan and was born in Bridport. She knows little of her family history but I will give what she does know and hope someone can start filling the gaps.
Her father was Anthony Martin Jordan who was born in Dover in 1922 and moved to Dorset. She thinks her dad was in the 8th Army in North Africa.
Her grandad was Anthony Bramwell Jordan who was born in Ireland - date unknown but died in late 1950s.
The grandads mother was Mary O'Mally possibly from County Cork.
Any help you could give from these few facts will help to give her a great birthday present. She would like to know about family history and any details of her father's or grandad's war record.
Thanks to all
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Hi welcome to Rootschat.
Here is her father's birth:
Births Mar 1922
Jordan Anthony M
mother's maiden name Tate
Dover 2a 1990
Jan
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Her grandparent's marriage:
Marriages Sep 1920
Anthony B Jordan
Dorothy A Tate
Croydon 2a 1051
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This is a really quick and helpful reply - Thanks
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Her grandmother and great grandparents in 1901
TATE, George J Head 31 Grainer & Paper Hanger Walworth Surrey
TATE, Eliza A Wife 33 Croydon Surrey
TATE, Dorothy A Daughter 5 Croydon Surrey
TATE, Elsie M Daughter 2 Croydon Surrey
RG13 Piece: 641 Folio: 174 Page: 49
105, Whitehorse Road, Croydon
Added: I'm not sure now that this is the right family or marriage as there is an Anthony B Jordan in the 1901 aged 3, but he was born in Croydon with mother Martha who was born in Bolton Lancashire. You need to get Anthony Martin's birth certificate which will give you his mother's name.
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Have spoken to my friend and she she feels that Anthony Martin's mother's maiden name was Tate. Your prompting brought back a memory, so I think we have the right marriage and 1901 census details. She seems definite that grandad Anthony Bramwell Jordan was born in Ireland.
Cannot thank you enough for all your grat work.
Bill
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If she is absolutely certain that Anthony B Jordan was born in Ireland, I don't think that is the right marriage, just a coincidence.
This is the Jordan family in Croydon in 1891 (before Anthony was born)
RG12; Piece: 592; Folio 88; Page 26
Anthony Jordan 35 Master Taylor Bury Lancs
Martha Jordan 35 Bolton Lancs
Thomas Jordan 13 Bolton Lancs
James A Jordan 11 Bolton Lancs
William Jordan 8 Sherbourne Dorest
Annie C Jordan 2 Croydon Surrey
John Jordan 5 Croydon Surrey
In 1901 RG13; Piece: 641; Folio: 151; Page: 3.
Martha Jordan 45 Bolton
Thomas Jordan 23 Bolton
James A Jordan 21 Bolton
William Jordan 18 Sherbourne
John Jordan 15 Croydon
Annie C Jordan 12 Croydon
Anthony B Jordan 3 Croydon
Martha died in Croydon in the December quarter 1922.
So there is no Irish link with this family. I think you do need to get Anthony Martin's birth certificate as that will give his mother's first name. If it does turn out to be Martha then the Irish connection is probably a family story that has got mixed up, if it isn't Martha then you know this is the wrong family. ;D
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That 1920 marriage is the only Jordan/Tate marriage that is coming up on Freebmd, but of course if they were Irish they may have married in Ireland before coming to England.
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Look what I've found ;D ;D ;D ;D
BIRTHS
Anthony Bramwell Jordan
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1897
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 224
So it's got to be the family. Where did she get the Irish connection from?
Jan
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Marriages:
June quarter 1876
BRAMWELL Martha
JORDAN Anthony
Bolton 8c 499
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Here it is - the Irish connection, but a generation earlier than she though.
1871 RG10 Piece: 3938 Folio: 54 Page: 39
Thynne Street, Great Bolton, Bolton
JORDAN, Thos Head Tailor 40 Ireland
JORDAN, Mary Wife 37 Ireland
JORDAN, Anthony Son Apprentice 15 Lancashire
JORDAN, James Son 13 Lancashire
JORDAN, Jos Son 11 Lancashire
JORDAN, Ellen A Daughter 6 Lancashire
JORDAN, John Son 4 Lancashire
JORDAN, Mary M Daughter 2 Lancashire
JORDAN, Francis Son 0 Lancashire
FLEMING, Mary A Servant 22 Lancashire
MCCORMICK, Bridget Servant 42 Ireland
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similar post on the surrey board with some overlapping information
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,542755.10.html
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Thank you Ladyhawk ::) ::) ::) Perhaps this thread needs to be locked so that information is not duplicated.
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Thanks to everyone who has helped with this search on the JORDAN family. I showed the results to my friend who was really, really happy.
Finally found her Irish roots which were 2 generations earlier than family whispers had suggested. Concluded at Thomas JORDAN who married Mary CARRAHER on 29 Dec 1852 in Rooskey IRE. This seems to be the best family match since there eldest son Anthony was born in Bury in 1856 so they must have 'come over' between 1852 and 1856.
Thanks again to all and any other little titbits would be appreciated.
Bill
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There's a thread re Martha Bramwell on this site. She was Anthony Jordan seniors' wife. It would be worth Bill having a look as it gives quite a bit of detail about Anthony juniors mothers familiy. Anthony Jordan Senior was my Great Grand Father
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Hi, my father was the illegitimate son of Anthony Jordan. However, because it was the result of an affair, my father was registered on the birth certificate as being the son of his mother's husband. Shortly before Anthony Jordan died, he reconnected with my father (who also passed away in 2007). My father never asked about the Jordan family history, so other than a couple of photographs I know nothing about my grandfather and his family or his other children. The information that I have seen posted on the website has been really helpful, but I was wondering if Amanda might be interested in getting in contact. Sorry to do this on such a public forum, but I am not sure how else to get in contact. Many thanks
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Hi, my father was the illegitimate son of Anthony Jordan. However, because it was the result of an affair, my father was registered on the birth certificate as being the son of his mother's husband. Shortly before Anthony Jordan died, he reconnected with my father (who also passed away in 2007). My father never asked about the Jordan family history, so other than a couple of photographs I know nothing about my grandfather and his family or his other children. The information that I have seen posted on the website has been really helpful, but I was wondering if Amanda might be interested in getting in contact. Sorry to do this on such a public forum, but I am not sure how else to get in contact. Many thanks
Hi interestedp, I have spoken to Amanda Wells (nee Jordan) and been asked to give out her email of (*) in the hope that you get in touch with her directly.
Cheers Bill
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Hi Bill
I suggest that you remove the email address and send it via a pm, otherwise Amanda is likely to get bombarded with spam or worse. ;)
http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting_guide.php#personal
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Hi, my father was the illegitimate son of Anthony Jordan. However, because it was the result of an affair, my father was registered on the birth certificate as being the son of his mother's husband. Shortly before Anthony Jordan died, he reconnected with my father (who also passed away in 2007). My father never asked about the Jordan family history, so other than a couple of photographs I know nothing about my grandfather and his family or his other children. The information that I have seen posted on the website has been really helpful, but I was wondering if Amanda might be interested in getting in contact. Sorry to do this on such a public forum, but I am not sure how else to get in contact. Many thanks
Hi there - tried sending you a PM to give Amanda's email address (as advised by moderator) but the message was not sent as your 'inbox full'. Therefore, no idea how to put you two in touch - any ideas?
Cheers Bill
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Hi
Interestedp needs to make 2 more posts before you can send them a PM - that is why you got the box full message. If they just reply a couple of times on this page you will then be able to contact them.
Jan
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Thanks for the advice Jan, will try and post a couple of these and see if it works
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Does this work?
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You should be able to PM each other now - good luck.
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is this her father? anthony martin jordan death registered july 1991 hammersmith date of birth 12th feb 1922
anthony martin jordan appears to have a sister born the following year - muriel jordan mothers maiden name tate birth registered dover june qtr 1923.sorry if iam duplicating anything you already have
anthony b jordan married dorothy a tate croydon sept qtr 1920.
anthony bramwell jordan birth reg sept qtr 1897 croydon
regards
alli