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Title: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: billinbrighton on Thursday 07 July 11 11:38 BST (UK)
A good friend of mine wants to know some of her family history for her 60th birthday.
Her name is Amanda Jane Jordan and was born in Bridport. She knows little of her family history but I will give what she does know and hope someone can start filling the gaps.
Her father was Anthony Martin Jordan who was born in Dover in 1922 and moved to Dorset. She thinks her dad was in the 8th Army in North Africa.
Her grandad was Anthony Bramwell Jordan who was born in Ireland - date unknown but died in late 1950s.
The grandads mother was Mary O'Mally possibly from County Cork.
Any help you could give from these few facts will help to give her a great birthday present. She would like to know about family history and any details of her father's or grandad's war record.
Thanks to all
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Thursday 07 July 11 11:47 BST (UK)
Hi  welcome to Rootschat.

Here is her father's birth:

Births Mar 1922   
Jordan    Anthony M   
mother's maiden name  Tate   
Dover    2a   1990

Jan
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Thursday 07 July 11 11:52 BST (UK)
Her grandparent's marriage:

Marriages Sep 1920
 
Anthony B Jordan   
Dorothy A Tate   

Croydon    2a   1051
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: billinbrighton on Thursday 07 July 11 11:53 BST (UK)
This is a really quick and helpful reply - Thanks
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Thursday 07 July 11 12:00 BST (UK)
Her grandmother and great grandparents in 1901


TATE, George J      Head                 31       Grainer & Paper Hanger   Walworth  Surrey      
TATE, Eliza A   Wife                    33                                               Croydon  Surrey      
TATE, Dorothy A   Daughter      5                                                Croydon  Surrey      
TATE, Elsie M   Daughter         2                                                Croydon  Surrey

RG13   Piece: 641   Folio: 174     Page: 49
 105, Whitehorse Road, Croydon

Added: I'm not sure now that this is the right family or marriage as there is an Anthony B Jordan in the 1901 aged 3, but he was born in Croydon with mother Martha who was born in Bolton Lancashire. You need to get Anthony Martin's birth certificate which will give you his mother's name.
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: billinbrighton on Thursday 07 July 11 12:32 BST (UK)
Have spoken to my friend and she she feels that Anthony Martin's mother's maiden name was Tate. Your prompting brought back a memory, so I think we have the right marriage and 1901 census details. She seems definite that grandad Anthony Bramwell Jordan was born in Ireland.
Cannot thank you enough for all your grat work.
Bill
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Thursday 07 July 11 15:05 BST (UK)
If she is absolutely certain that Anthony B Jordan was born in Ireland, I don't think that is the right marriage, just a coincidence.

This is the Jordan family in Croydon in 1891 (before Anthony was born) 
RG12; Piece: 592; Folio 88; Page 26

Anthony Jordan   35  Master Taylor    Bury Lancs
Martha Jordan   35                                   Bolton Lancs
Thomas Jordan   13                                   Bolton Lancs
James A Jordan   11                           Bolton Lancs
William Jordan   8                                     Sherbourne Dorest
Annie C Jordan   2                                     Croydon Surrey
John Jordan   5                                      Croydon Surrey

In 1901   RG13; Piece: 641; Folio: 151; Page: 3.

Martha Jordan   45                      Bolton
Thomas Jordan   23                      Bolton
James A Jordan   21              Bolton
William Jordan   18                      Sherbourne
John Jordan   15                      Croydon
Annie C Jordan   12                      Croydon
Anthony B Jordan   3                Croydon

Martha died in Croydon in the December quarter 1922.

So there is no Irish link with this family. I think you do need to get Anthony Martin's birth certificate as that will give his mother's first name. If it does turn out to be Martha then the Irish connection is probably a family story that has got mixed up, if it isn't Martha then you know this is the wrong family.  ;D
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Thursday 07 July 11 15:09 BST (UK)
That 1920 marriage is the only Jordan/Tate marriage that is coming up on Freebmd, but of course if they were Irish they may have married in Ireland before coming to England.
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Thursday 07 July 11 15:16 BST (UK)
Look what I've found  ;D ;D ;D ;D

BIRTHS

Anthony Bramwell Jordan
Date of Registration:   Jul-Aug-Sep 1897
Registration district:   Croydon
Inferred County:   Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume:   2a
Page:   224

So it's got to be the family. Where did she get the Irish connection from?

Jan
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Thursday 07 July 11 15:22 BST (UK)
Marriages:


June quarter  1876 

BRAMWELL    Martha        
JORDAN    Anthony       

Bolton    8c   499
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Thursday 07 July 11 15:33 BST (UK)
Here it is - the Irish connection, but a generation earlier than she though.

1871  RG10   Piece: 3938   Folio: 54   Page: 39
Thynne Street, Great Bolton, Bolton


JORDAN, Thos   Head       Tailor                    40                     Ireland      
JORDAN, Mary   Wife                                       37              Ireland      
JORDAN, Anthony   Son   Apprentice   15                     Lancashire      
JORDAN, James   Son                     13         Lancashire      
JORDAN, Jos   Son                             11         Lancashire      
JORDAN, Ellen A   Daughter                    6              Lancashire   
JORDAN, John   Son                                          4             Lancashire      
JORDAN, Mary M   Daughter                    2             Lancashire   
JORDAN, Francis   Son                       0         Lancashire      
FLEMING, Mary A   Servant                  22              Lancashire   
MCCORMICK, Bridget   Servant               42         Ireland
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 07 July 11 15:40 BST (UK)
similar post on the surrey board with some overlapping information

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,542755.10.html
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Thursday 07 July 11 15:44 BST (UK)
Thank you Ladyhawk  ::) ::) ::)  Perhaps this thread needs to be locked so that information is not duplicated.
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: billinbrighton on Friday 08 July 11 18:12 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone who has helped with this search on the JORDAN family. I showed the results to my friend who was really, really happy.
Finally found her Irish roots which were 2 generations earlier than family whispers had suggested. Concluded at Thomas JORDAN who married Mary CARRAHER on 29 Dec 1852 in Rooskey IRE. This seems to be the best family match since there eldest son Anthony was born in Bury in 1856 so they must have 'come over' between 1852 and 1856.
Thanks again to all and any other little titbits would be appreciated.
Bill
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: Billjo1 on Saturday 30 July 11 06:13 BST (UK)
There's a thread re Martha Bramwell on this site. She was Anthony Jordan seniors' wife. It would be worth Bill having a look as it gives quite a bit of detail about Anthony juniors mothers familiy. Anthony Jordan Senior was my Great Grand Father
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: interestedp on Thursday 03 January 13 11:01 GMT (UK)
Hi, my father was the illegitimate son of Anthony Jordan. However, because it was the result of an affair, my father was registered on the birth certificate as being the son of his mother's husband. Shortly before Anthony Jordan died, he reconnected with my father (who also passed away in 2007). My father never asked about the Jordan family history, so other than a couple of photographs I know nothing about my grandfather and his family or his other children. The information that I have seen posted on the website has been really helpful, but I was wondering if Amanda might be interested in getting in contact. Sorry to do this on such a public forum, but I am not sure how else to get in contact. Many thanks
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: billinbrighton on Saturday 05 January 13 09:48 GMT (UK)
Hi, my father was the illegitimate son of Anthony Jordan. However, because it was the result of an affair, my father was registered on the birth certificate as being the son of his mother's husband. Shortly before Anthony Jordan died, he reconnected with my father (who also passed away in 2007). My father never asked about the Jordan family history, so other than a couple of photographs I know nothing about my grandfather and his family or his other children. The information that I have seen posted on the website has been really helpful, but I was wondering if Amanda might be interested in getting in contact. Sorry to do this on such a public forum, but I am not sure how else to get in contact. Many thanks
Hi interestedp, I have spoken to Amanda Wells (nee Jordan) and been asked to give out her email of (*) in the hope that you get in touch with her directly.
Cheers Bill

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Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Saturday 05 January 13 10:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Bill

I suggest that you remove the email address and send it via a pm, otherwise Amanda is likely to get bombarded with spam or worse.   ;)

http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting_guide.php#personal
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: billinbrighton on Sunday 06 January 13 14:41 GMT (UK)
Hi, my father was the illegitimate son of Anthony Jordan. However, because it was the result of an affair, my father was registered on the birth certificate as being the son of his mother's husband. Shortly before Anthony Jordan died, he reconnected with my father (who also passed away in 2007). My father never asked about the Jordan family history, so other than a couple of photographs I know nothing about my grandfather and his family or his other children. The information that I have seen posted on the website has been really helpful, but I was wondering if Amanda might be interested in getting in contact. Sorry to do this on such a public forum, but I am not sure how else to get in contact. Many thanks
Hi there - tried sending you a PM to give Amanda's email address (as advised by moderator) but the message was not sent as your 'inbox full'. Therefore, no idea how to put you two in touch - any ideas?
Cheers Bill
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Sunday 06 January 13 15:05 GMT (UK)
Hi

Interestedp needs to make 2 more posts before you can send them a PM - that is why you got the box full message. If they just reply a couple of times on this page you will then be able to contact them.

Jan
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: interestedp on Sunday 06 January 13 21:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the advice Jan, will try and post a couple of these and see if it works
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: interestedp on Sunday 06 January 13 21:51 GMT (UK)
Does this work?
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: groom on Sunday 06 January 13 21:53 GMT (UK)
You should be able to PM each other now - good luck.
Title: Re: JORDAN Family in Dorset
Post by: allibaker on Friday 01 February 13 10:28 GMT (UK)
is this her father? anthony martin jordan death registered july 1991 hammersmith date of birth 12th feb 1922
anthony martin jordan appears to have a sister born the following year - muriel jordan mothers maiden name tate birth registered dover june qtr 1923.sorry if iam duplicating anything you already have
anthony b jordan married dorothy a tate croydon sept qtr 1920.
anthony bramwell jordan birth reg sept qtr 1897 croydon
regards
alli