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Title: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: sivam01 on Tuesday 05 July 11 06:29 BST (UK)
I would really appreciate any help as I really have struck a brick wall! I have found the birth record  on free reg: Ann Cross-baptism 27/04/1824- father John Cross-mother Sarah. This gives me no surname for her mother. Ann (my gg grandmother) later was located in Marylebone her father a victualler. If I can find her mother's surname I think I may be able to solve some pieces of the puzzle. Marriage of John and Sarah perhaps. ???
Thankyou for any help. Sivam.
Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: patrish on Tuesday 05 July 11 11:25 BST (UK)
In trying to determine when the marriage may hve taken place I came across an earlier baptism to John Cross and Sarah in Barkestone on the IGI

Mary ch. 7.7.1822

Do you know of any others  ???

Not found a marriage so far  :(
Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: patrish on Tuesday 05 July 11 11:26 BST (UK)

If a marriage was found for a John and Sarah  unfortunately it wouldent give the grooms occupation , only his status, date, whether of the parish and witnesses. :(

It would  be difficult to determine if it was the correct one especially as Cross is a very common surname unless one could be  found in Barkstone  :-\
Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: sivam01 on Wednesday 06 July 11 05:55 BST (UK)
Patrish, Many Thanks for your reply. I know of one daughter Eliza who was born to John and Sarah(again no surname) and that was in Marylebone 1827-28 and I know that was a sister of Ann. John Cross later remarried in 1835 so I guess Sarah must have died. I do appreciate you finding a Mary who could well be a sister also. Thanks, Sivam.
Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: JoBNZ on Sunday 20 September 15 10:58 BST (UK)
Hi Sivam

It is now over 4 years since you wrote. I hope you are still connected/watching here.

Ann Cross is also a 2xg g-mother of my husband. However, while I am interested in your question, I cannot answer your question about Sarah's surname. Nor do I know where she, or husband John, was from.

I think Mary (bn 1822), Ann (1824), Eliza (1829) and Harriett Johnstone (1831) were all from John's first marriage. There are some gaps though I suspect there were others who maybe did not survive. I do wonder if the name Johnstone is a clue.

John's second marriage in 1835 to Elizabeth Seymour had at least another 4 children. 

Have you seen Lynley's website at
   www.lynly.gen.nz
??

cheers,
jo
Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: sivam01 on Monday 21 September 15 04:42 BST (UK)
Thankyou JoBNZ, still researching and I do thankyou for the Harriett Johnstone information. I've been searching Harriett Cross and trying to find out what became of her for ages. She was definitely a daughter of John and Sarah born 1830, maybe baptised 1831. It would seem only Ann and maybe Harriett had children then. From John's second marriage it seems that only Emma survived into late adulthood having married twice. I can't find any surviving children for her though. I saw a death although haven't got the certficate for Eliza Merryweather and that she had a son which I also saw on the indexes. I always wondered if the Spencer in John Spencer Cross was a clue too.
I've been looking for Fanny Elizabeth Harris and Alfred Harris, any clues???
Thanks again for the info, I'll keep looking!!!
Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: JoBNZ on Monday 21 September 15 05:56 BST (UK)
Hi again
FreeBMD have a Death Sep 1837 for Cross Harriet Johnstone Marylebone    1 180.
I do not know what happened to Mary.
I don't have a death for Ann either.
And I know that Eliza md a Merryweather, but do not know his given name(s), nor any children. Do you have them please?
Sophia & Mary, both children of John & Elizabeth, were alive in 1871 census, but I do don't know about them after that.
So sorry, I have little that is helpful! Sounds like you have searched pretty well.
Cheers,
jo


Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: sivam01 on Monday 21 September 15 06:23 BST (UK)
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll search through all my info as not quite at my fingertips. There was a death entry in Leicestershire for Mary when she was just young. I'll sort out it all for you, have Sophia's marriage and about a year later her death although haven't got the certificate. From memory I thought Harriett Johnstone Cross was another's birth. I had a suscription for ancestry with which I discovered a lot. I'll get back to you within the next few days. ;D
Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: sivam01 on Tuesday 22 September 15 04:22 BST (UK)
JoBNZ,  a little more information for you, some you may already know.  ::)
Elizabeth Cross died Jan. 1849. John Cross died Aug 1849 aged 55years.
Ann Cross remarried after George Harris to William John Watson in 1855, had a son John born 1856. She died Jan 1858.
Sophia Cross married William Hailey 1856. She died in 1857.
Eliza Cross was with William James Merryweather (can't find marriage), son Alfred William Merryeather born 1849. A death in Birmingham 1852, may be him and an Eliza Merryweather in 1851 may be her, haven't got certificates for them so not sure.
Emma cross married William Cornelious Cowley in 1860 and then William Lomas 1876. (Haven't found children).
Annie Harris married William Wilson Proctor 1873 then her cousin James H. Pounce in 1878. I think she had a son not sure of information about him.
Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: JoBNZ on Thursday 25 May 17 09:47 BST (UK)
Oh dear!! I have only now seen this.
Many thanks indeed! Will see what I can do from here.
cheers,
j

Title: Re: St Peter and St Paul, Barkestone, Leicestershire- Cross
Post by: sivam01 on Thursday 25 May 17 10:04 BST (UK)
JoBNZ, pleased this was maybe of help. I hope you manage to unearth some information for us. :D