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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: judyjay on Thursday 30 June 11 18:29 BST (UK)
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I have found John Ranson [born 1842] his wife Elizabeth and their children on the 1880 census in Toronto. I also have their marriage in 1871.
Is anyone able to look at 1870 and the other censuses for me for this family. I am particularily interested in when John came to Canada. He only appears on the 1851 and 1861 English censuses.
Thank you
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Free sites to view
You can view the family in the 1881 and 1891 Census at
www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/index-e.html
You can view the orginal documents through the split screen/view option using pdf or jpeg.
1881 Ontario/Toronto/St James Ward
John age 39
Elizabeth age 30
John age 9
William age 4
Nellie age 9 months
Same family with different ages for parents in 1891 at Ontario/Toronto/St Andrews Ward
You can look for the family in the 1901 and 1911 census at
http://automatedgenealogy.com
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Thank you so much for your message. I had looked at 1901 but hadn't found him. I didn't know the 1891 was online so am very pleased to know that. I shall have to update some of my other research now.
Regards
Judy
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http://automatedgenealogy.com
has son John, wife and children still in Toronto
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Weel, I'm completely flummoxed. I found them easily on the 1891 but have had no luck with 1901 or 1911 whatever spelling of their surname I use. May have to admit defeat on this but thank you for all your help.
By the way does anyone know what an Assembly Christian is? It is given as their religion.
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http://automatedgenealogy.com
Couldn't find the parents John and Elizabeth or daughter Nellie so it is possible that the parents are deceased and the daughter married by 1901
1901 Toronto East, Ward No 2
Household 67 lines 24-27
Ranson, John; head, June 11, 1872, age 28, methodist, occupation - scale maker
Lily, wife, Nov 22, 1877, age 23
William J., son, August 12, 1898, age 2
Lily J, daughter, Sept 6, 1900
Lily is transcribed as Lily J but the actual document looks like Lily I. In 1911 the daughter born in 1900 is Irene so could be the same person.
I found a possible for William
1901 Ontario/Simcoe East/ Midland
Household 96, line 41
in the household of Earnest Lanton
Ranson, William, male, lodger, single, b. June 21, 1873, Ontario, age 27, methodist, occupation - lab
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Do you know the names of the parents of John and Elizabeth as that can help in searching for information?
It appears the religion is Methodist.
1911 Census of Canada
Ontario/Toronto East/48 Toronto/page 10
household 100, lines 23-28
Ranson, John, male, head, married, Jan. 1875, age 36
Lilly, female, wife, Oct 1878, age 32
William, male, son, single, Sept 1898, age 12
Irene, daughter, Sept 1900, age 10
Ruth, daughter, Sept 1902, age 8
Reta, daughter, Sept 1906, age 4
Dont'get too wrapped up in the different years of birth as that was not unusual at the time. People weren't very concerned about the age given as changed it to suit their needs.
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http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#start
birth
William Ranson
24 May 1877
Toronto, York, Ontario
Mother: Elizabeth Griffeth
Father: John Ranson
birth
Nellie Ranson
30 June 1880
Toronto, York, Ontario
Mother: Elizabeth Griffith
Father: John Ranson
Someone with more knowledge of Ontario research may be able to find more info regarding marriage/deaths for William and Nellie
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www.automatedgenealogy.com
A possibility? 1911 in Toronto West, - William, Elizabeth (widowed) and sister Eleanor are transcribed as "Renson". I thought it odd that they were Irish, but then I think I found Elizabeth's death in 1930.
Elizabeth Ranson b. 28 Feb 1848 Woodburn, Ontario died 2 May 1930 North York. States she is a widow, Irish, housewife, address 97 McDougall Ave, North York. father Thomas Griffith b Ireland. gives no mother's name, but b. England. Informant is Albert John Jacobs, son-in-law, same address, burial is in Aurora.
oops maybe not :( the 1871 marriage has James as her father.
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I thought that judyjay had death information and was only looking for census information so didn't post. There is a death for John Ranson in Toronto on Dec 20, 1900 and his age was given as 60. He was born in England and liivng at 236 Victoria. Occupation - caretaker. It was one of the death registrations with no room to add parents names. Seems like a good possibility.
I thought that Elizabeth's death in 1930 was his wife. The informant was son-in-law, Alfred Jacobs, and there is a marriage for Nellie Ranson, d/o John Ranson and Elizabeth Griffith on Sept 17, 1913 at Toronto. Nellie died April 19, 1936 at Toronto and is buried at Aurora. The informant was her married daughter.
Debbie
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Thank you for all your replies. This is fascinating stuff. I only found him by accident after putting his mother's name into a search engine and getting the 1871 marriage details. I went back to the English censuses and found him living with an aunt and uncle on one census and his grandparents on the other.
John's parents were John and Dorinda Ranson and he was born in Colchester Essex. His father was from Suffolk.
Judy
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e1p/
1901 Census for widowed Elizabeth and children Nellie and William
Debbie
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Thank you Debbie, that's great.
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This just gets better. I've just used my brain andused the new search on FamilySearch and found John [son of John and Elizabeth]and Lily in Chicago in 1930. They emigrated in 1924. Found other stuff too.
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John RANSON / occ,shoe maker, b. 1843 Colchester, living Toronto/parents John & Dorinda
married Elizabeth GRIFFITH b. 1849 Binbrook Ont. living Toronto / parents James & Maria
aug 14th 1871 Toronto
(added: Only just noticed there was a page 2 :-\ ::) was adding for parents names )
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Thank you, that's great info to have.
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Found the info about John Ranson and his wife Elizabeth parents John and Dorinda would any one know what his mothers last name was.He was born in England died in Canada date unknown.His daughter Nellie married a man with the last name Jacobs she died in 1936 Toronto.Any help would be appreciated.
Txs Kim
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Dorinda b. 1813/1814 Essex & John Ranson were married before 1837, so not registered, nor can she befound on prior censuses. Name also spelled Derinda.
Baptism of Miriam Tabor Ranson from the IGI was performed at Helens Lane Meeting House Or Stockwell Chapel-Indecolches, Colchester, Essex. Wonder which denomination holds their records in case they may have been married there?
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Just found this older posting online, says her maiden name was Frost ( you'd need proof of this)
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ESSEX-UK/2000-04/0957004238
I also found another judyjay request where she thinks the surname is Hall or Hull
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?;topic=541184.0
The meeting house was already in place 1790...Not your Dorinda though :)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMJB-8ZG
a mention of the chapel and also the Independent Church, St Helen's Lane, here
http://www.camulos.com/cemetery.htm
and here http://www.camulos.com/virtual/guidea.htm
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Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial BMDs Service http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/ The christening seems to be the only one listed with a Derinda/Dorinda on it... ( Rawson In Essex listing )
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thanks so much for ur help jj muchlt appreciated
all the best
kim