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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: SBib on Wednesday 29 June 11 14:34 BST (UK)
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Looking for parish register marriage of James Bibby to Elizabeth Richards c1875.
Marriage not found on FreeBMD or IGI.
Both living in Hull in 1881.
Elizabeth living in Whitby in 1871.
James not found on any census before 81.
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Hi.... The nearest I could find was this one on freebmd...there wasn't a match that I could find on Ancestry:
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Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Bibby Thomas Swansea 11a 825
JONES David Swansea 11a 825
Phillips Mary Swansea 11a 825
Richards Emily Swansea 11a 825
There are 3 marriages on Yorkshirebmd for James Bibby but not with the spouse you mention.
Do you know if they married in Hull.
Carol
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1881 census:
Reference RG11, Piece 4747, Folio 92, Page 24
7 Howe Street, Sutton & Stone ferry, Sculcoates, Yorkshire
Bibby, James Head M 55 Chelsea Pensioner and Labourer Iron Ship Yard b Croydon, Surrey
Bibby, Elizabeth Wife F 33 b Whitby, Yorkshire
Bibby, Alfred Son M 11 b Hull
Bibby, James Son M 5 b Hull
Bibby, Ellen Daughter F 1 b Hull
Therefore I presume a marriage took place c 1869?
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KG - No. Alfred was Elizabeth's son from a previous marriage. You can see them in 1871.
Carol - I don't know where they were married.
I believe this is going to need a parish register lookup starting with Hull or Whitby.
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So what was Elizabeth's previous marriage?
What was Alfred's surname when born?
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Is this her first Marriage:
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1870
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WOODWARD James RICHARDS Elizabeth All Saints, Sculcoates Hull HAS/18/1
If so...then we should be looking for a Bibby/ Woodward marriage.
Carol
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Scrap that one...This must be her first marriage:
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Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
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Hamnett Mary Whitby 9d 858
MASON Thomas Whitby 9d 858
MOSS Elizabeth Whitby 9d 858
RICHARDS Oliver Whitby 9d 858
Carol
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That's correct, she married Oliver Richards.
But I'm not looking for her ancestry.
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Fair enough ::)
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Hi Steve (+ others)
We have looked in many Parish Registers in Hull & Sculcoates for this marriage and have come up with nothing. There is a chance they were married elsewhere (Whitby for example) but nothing has shown up to date.
I know they were in Hull from March 1876 onwards.
On her children's birth certs they show her surname as formerly: Moss, Richards, Allison (this was her birth name - Ann Elizabeth Allison).
A clue might be found if anyone can find out what happened to Oliver Richards - he seems to have vanished completely after 1871 census.
She also married again (after the death of James Bibby in 1883) - to James Beckett in 1893 and that certificate names her as Bibby and says she is a widow...could be a fib of course....
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Hi Paul
Have you tried Yorkshire trade directories between 1870 and 1880?
Looking for Oliver Richards and/or James Bibby around Hull/Whitby area.
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We've tried some but I can't remember for which dates.
I will mention it as another possible source.
Oliver Richards was a fisherman so it could be he was lost at sea, or travelled to another port and just "disappeared"!
Both James and Elizabeth were in Hull in March 1876 and she was last seen prior to that in Whitby in April 1871 (census) married to Oliver Richards. Something between these two dates is the key to the mystery!