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Title: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd *COMPLETED*
Post by: hmallington on Tuesday 28 June 11 21:29 BST (UK)
There is an old abandoned house on the corner of Ranelagh Road and London Road in Ipswich.

I know that it has been occupied by various businesses in the last 30 years or so but at one time (pre WW2) I am guessing a great aunt of mine lived there, older family members can remember going to visit her and believe it was a home of some sort, does anyone have any information on what it may have been?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Tuesday 28 June 11 23:16 BST (UK)
I have often pondered the past of these houses, so neglected now.  Have you tried looking on 1901/1911 census to see if they can yield any information?

Pat ...

Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: Annette7 on Wednesday 29 June 11 01:40 BST (UK)
Drove past here the other day - has now been demolished.

Annette
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: hmallington on Wednesday 29 June 11 08:42 BST (UK)
Probably about time has been empty for quite some time.

Helen
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: Hephzibah on Wednesday 29 June 11 10:23 BST (UK)
I believe it used to be a home for young women.
My aunt recalls that in the 1940s there were young girls living there and every Sunday they used to attend (she thinks) St Matthews church in Portman Road. They all wore the same, royal blue coats with panama hats. They walked in crocodile with an adult at the front and one at the back. The girls didnot attend Ranelagh Road school which was next door and my aunt seems to think they had some disability to be living there.
In the 1950s I walked home to Hadleigh Road with my aunt every Sunday,  after  attending church in London Road. At the same time were walking several women, in crocodile formation, returning home after church service.
I suspect the the latter may have been the same women as had been in the home in the 1940s....but it's just a guess!
I have a very very hazy memory that there was also a large detached house to the right of the one in the photograph which was demolished in the road widening of London Road: it may have been this one, rather than the one in the photo, which was the home.
Hephzibah

Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: hmallington on Wednesday 29 June 11 10:44 BST (UK)
That is wonderful, thanks, it all fits with what I have been told. My uncle said he always felt scared when they went and visited which would fit with the girls having some sort of disability, it was talked about so it was probably a little scary for a young child seeing people who were deemed to be not normal. Thank god that has changed nowadays.

Helen
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Wednesday 29 June 11 15:39 BST (UK)
Interesting to learn more (I had always thought they were a pair of upmarket semi-detached).

Pat ...

Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: IndisVanyar on Wednesday 29 June 11 21:12 BST (UK)
Hello all

 The 1901 census (Ref RG13/1776/68/38) has:
Address 1 and 2, Handford Villas, Ranelagh Road
Elizabeth H Cooper, Head, Single, Female, 43, 1858, Matron House Feeble Minded Girls
plus a Laundy Matron and a Sub Matron caring for 19 girls aged 13 to 19

I wonder how they defined feeble minded?

In the 1911 census there is a reference to Handford Home Ranelagh Road Ipswich where the 17 inmates all appear to be young(ish) women ranging in age from 10 to 27.

Nell
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: Greensleeves on Wednesday 29 June 11 21:43 BST (UK)
I remember that house - I used to attend Ranelagh Road School intermittently (my father was in the RAF and my grand-parents lived off the Hadleigh Road, and for a while we lived in Ranelagh Road).  My mother told me that after WW2 the house had been an orphanage, so  I am wondering whether the poor 'feeble minded girls' had been abandoned by their parents.
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: hmallington on Wednesday 29 June 11 22:09 BST (UK)
I believe it would have been pre WW2 when my aunt was there however her mother died when she was a very young child so it is quite possible that she was sent there because her father found her to troublesome or difficult to deal with.
Helen
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: hmallington on Wednesday 29 June 11 22:10 BST (UK)
Thanks also Nell for the census info, very interesting.

Helen
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Wednesday 29 June 11 22:19 BST (UK)
Have just checked our Kelly's for 1937

Ranelagh Road

................here is Paul's Road.................

Council School
 253 and 255
Handford Home for Feeble Minded Girls
Miss D. Miller, Matron

(modified, not sure, but I think the 'Council School' refers to the home)?

Pat ...

Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: hmallington on Wednesday 29 June 11 22:21 BST (UK)
Thanks Pat

Helen
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Wednesday 29 June 11 22:30 BST (UK)
Just checked A2A as we now have the name of the school.

Found this

Daily Population Book (including mental defectives received from Handford Home 30 Nov 1944-31 Dec 1945)

Part of the records from St Clement's Hospital in Ipswich which are held at the Ipswich branch of the SRO.

I wonder what these poor girls were like, the 'labels' given to them sound so sad  :(

Pat ...

Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: hmallington on Wednesday 29 June 11 22:47 BST (UK)
Think I will have to check at SRO and see what records if any they available.
Title: Re: Ipswich - corner of Ranelagh Rd & London Rd
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Thursday 30 June 11 10:14 BST (UK)
The above was the only item listed on A2A with 'Handford House' included in the title, although there are a lot of records for St Clement's.

Pat ...