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Title: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Little Jim on Saturday 25 June 11 18:23 BST (UK)
I am looking for the ancestors of William Harry Williams, Maybe Henry. Born in Wales Abt. 1835. Married Naomi James B.Abt 1840. Emmigrated to NZ. Attached is their Golden Wedding photo in Wellington 20 March 1911.
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: rutht22000 on Saturday 25 June 11 18:35 BST (UK)
fantastic photo (do you know who is who?  ;D)

There is a record of them marrying in Newport (Monmouthshire) district in March Quarter of 1861.

Do you have them on the UK census in London for 1861 and 1871? (Just so I know its the right family did they have Mary, Frank, Emily, Alice and Naomi all before 1871?) and did they leave the UK before 1881?

They give his birth place as Newport, Monmouthshire and her birth place as Livon Avon (or something like that),  again Monmouthshire.
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: rutht22000 on Saturday 25 June 11 18:42 BST (UK)
going on his occupation it looks like him in 1851 @ Ebenezar Terrace, St Woolas, Monmouthshire (HO107 2452 39 6)

William Williams, Head, 48, ? Plasterer
Sarah Williams, Wife, 47
John Williams Son, 20, Plasterer
Susanna Williams, Dau, 18, Dressmaker
William Williams, Son, 16, Sailmaker (apprentice)
James Williams, Son, 13, Plasterers Labourer,
Thomas Williams, Son, 10, Scholar
Sarah Ann Williams, Dau, 7, Scholar
Mary Jane Williams, Dau, 3, At home

Children and father all born Newport and mother Sarah born at Bassleg

Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Janette on Saturday 25 June 11 20:32 BST (UK)
Hi Little Jim,

They had 4  chidren in NZ

1877/17177 Williams  Alfred George / Naomi /William Henry
1879/17039 Williams  Laurence/  Naomi /William Henry
1879/17040 Williams  Florence/  Naomi/ William Henry
1881/11683 Williams  Harold/  Naomi /William Henry


Cheers Janette
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Janette on Saturday 25 June 11 20:49 BST (UK)
This appears to be their arrival in NZ

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dxz/
The image takes a few seconds to load

Wm Hy Williams aged  40 sailmaker born Devon
Naomi                          35
Mary E                         13
Emily Susan                   8
Jane S                           4   
Wm  Hy                         2
Jno Frank                    3/12

Event Date: 02 Apr 1876
Event Place: New Zealand
Ship : Waipa
Departure Date: 17 Dec 1875
 Arrival Port: Wellington
Arrival Date: 02 Apr 1876


Cheers Janette
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 25 June 11 20:59 BST (UK)
Hi Jim
Are you after any info in NZ eg
Karori Cemetery (Inscriptions) - Wellington
Area/Block/Row/Plot
02/A/17/085
Description
ILMO William Henry bh of Naomi WILLIAMS who fell
alseep 12 Sep 1914. Also Florence WILLIAMS d 10 Mar
1948.

Or ancestors only?
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Janette on Saturday 25 June 11 21:03 BST (UK)
Hi Jim here is the cemetery entry for the son Wm HY and a photo


http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/details.php?id=74145&Service=Burial


Cheers Janette
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Janette on Saturday 25 June 11 21:12 BST (UK)
Hmmmmmmm,the cemetery looks to have put a photo of Wm Hy junior's headstone with his father's entry

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Janette on Saturday 25 June 11 21:14 BST (UK)
Here is Naomi's entry

http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/details.php?id=74147&Service=Burial

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Saturday 25 June 11 21:20 BST (UK)
Hi Janette
I've never spotted that photo option at the bottom of the info before, must learn to use the glasses  8)
Bye
Althea
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Janette on Saturday 25 June 11 21:23 BST (UK)
Hi Althea,

Not all entries have it,but they seem to be getting more

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: rutht22000 on Saturday 25 June 11 21:24 BST (UK)
1841 census @ St Woolas

William Williams, 35, Plasterer
Sarah Willams, 35
John Williams, 10
Susanna Williams, 8
William Williams, 6
James Williams, 3
Thomas Williams, 1

All born Monmouthshire
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Janette on Saturday 25 June 11 21:30 BST (UK)
His marriage

Marriages Mar 1861 
James  Naomi     Newport M  11a 229   
Williams  William Henry     Newport M  11a 229   


Newport M spans the boundaries of the counties of Glamorgan, Gwent and Monmouthshire


Cheers Janette
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Little Jim on Saturday 25 June 11 22:37 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your responses.
This will help me greatly. I was told by my father that Harry was a "Sailmaker". His Daughter Naomi Jane was my grandmother. Yes I can name everyone in the photo. On my "Keltie Family" website I have the same photo posted with my Keltie side of the family named. I could name everyone else if someone was interested.
Title: Re: William Harry (Henry) Williams
Post by: Janette on Saturday 25 June 11 22:40 BST (UK)
Hi Jim

you can find the marriages of the children here

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/

Cheers Janette