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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: Nona Anon on Thursday 23 June 11 22:52 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find any Early (pre 1750) MOODY's (any spelling MUDIE/MOODIE) in the Paisley, Renfrewshire area. They might have been in Greenock or Inverkip etc., but we have a documented relationship via marriage etc., to an old sea captain from Paisley named Alexander McCUISTION (McQuiston many various spellings).
His relatives which married into our Thomas MOODY family (Thomas b.c1710 in/of Aghadowey, Co. L'derry, Nor. Ireland who m. 1st to Jean McQUISTON(McCuistion) daug. of Benjamin in Newton-Limavady or Newton-Stewart, Nor. Ire. all came to America together with a Robert McCuistion and many others around 1735 landing at New Castle, PA (now in Delaware).
From the LDS earliest records of the Paisley and Inverkip areas of Renfrewshire I have found Many of the surnames that our Moody's intermarried with, and many of those early families also must have gone to Nor. Ireland because they are there in the earliest records we've found as well.
Also we have found our name spelled as MUDIE and MOODIE in the earliest records of Co. L'derry, Co. Armagh and Co. Antrim in Nor. Ireland. I believe these were possibly the original spellings of our name but it was changed to the more common English verison many use today. Also our Ydna has shown that we do NOT link to any of the English lines of MOODY's that have now been extensively ydna tested as well. Our roots anciently came from Norway (or Scandinavia somewhere but most likely Norway) to Scotland to Nor. Ireland to North America (including Nova Scotia).
If anyone can help with early records of McQuiston's/McCuiston's and Moodie/Mudie/Moody links anywhere in Renfrewshire, I would be most greatful. Again, I already have what's posted on the LDS site in IGI records from the Old Parish churches.
Thank You.
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Hi
A quick look at Scotland's People for Moodies (and variants) pre 1750 in Renfrewshire shows several entries with various spellings in the OPR baptisms section. I used a wild card to seach the name m*die. There are 45 but the first half dozen are not relevant nor are some at the end of the list. Searchi.ng using m*dy produces 42 results - again some are not relevant and can be ignored.
The Scotland's People site is pay per view but good value. http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
For those listed copies of the baptism entries are available at 5 credits each. The search costing 1 credit per page which lists the names, year, parents names where known and parish. There are several in the locations you have listed. (25 entries per page)
Best Wishes
Ann :D
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Thanks Ann for your efforts, I really appreciate that.
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Hi
You're very welcome! You probably won't need to open most of the records as they don't often give you a lot more info than the list of names etc does. Tho depending on where they sit on the tree you might want them for completeness. Had less luck with McQuistons (and variants).
There are about half a dozen but none in Renfrewshire. I searched pre 1750 using m*ist*n. Produces 202 (9 pages worth) but they don't appear til bottom of page 7 and top of page 8.
Hope this helps
Ann :D
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Hi
My maiden name is Moodie and my father's family were from Neilston/Barrhead. They were the only Moodies in that actual area between about 1820 and 1950. One census (1861) gave an incorrect spelling of the name (Moody) but otherwise spelling was always Moodie. I don't know where they came from though. It was either Ireland or Orkney. I have Alexander Moodie's marriage certificate which indicates he might have been born around 1820 but I can't yet find a birth certificate. He married Janet Millar in 1847 and was married in Neilston Manse by Hugh Aird minister. There appeared also to be groups of Moodies in Paisley and Johnstone who had roots were in Ireland but do not appear to be related directly in the 19C. The growth of the cotton mills etc at that time attracted many workers from all over especially Ireland.
If you do find anything keep in touch because I am still working on this.
Irene
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my cousin has links with moodie family i think in the denny/falkirk area if this helps.
T.
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In Reply to "Irenaf" and "Undertaker",
Thank you both for your great information that you shared. I am still Very Much interested in finding more connections.
Another "genetic" cousin's family claims to have come to No. Ireland from either the Fifeshire area of Scotland or the Dundee area of Scotland. Her ancestors settled in the Magilligan, Co. L'derry, N. Ire. area which is waaay up to the north of the country.
The earliest records of Baptism at the Ballykelly Presbyterian Church where her family at one time attended had their name spelled as MUDIE and variants thereof. I have been told or actually read in an old MUDIE family book that the orig. spelling of our name was (well, the oldest spelling consistently found on record) was MUDIE and that the variant spelling of MOODIE came after sometime around the 1600's. However I don't have whatever that books author used as a Source to back up this claim.
We now have two confirmed Ydna (genetic) Moody/Mudie/Moodie ancestors...the earliest Proven one still remains our Thomas MOODY b.c1710 in/of Aghadowey, Co. L'derry, Nor. Ireland who married 1st to Jean McQUISTON/McCuison (many various spellings from McWHISTON to Uisdean back through time). The other genetic ancestor is Alexander MOODY b.c1745 in/of Lenamore/Magilligan, Co. L'derry, No. Ireland who married Priscilla DICK.
They had a son John MOODY who m. Mary HOPKINS and also a son Israel Moody who m. Elizabeth CASKEY (McCaskie...again, various spellings) and they removed to Kings Co., Nova Scotia in 1841.
This family was definitely said to have come from Scotland (Fife or Dundee areas or perhaps both).
Our dna says we descend from the Norwegians which the MOODIE's of Orkney also claim. I have always maintained that my gut feeling is that my branch descends from the Orkney MOODIE's.
Hopefully one day we will know precisely where my father's family came from early on.
The most common first names in our Ydna family lines are Thomas, William, Alexander, John, Robert, Joseph, Daniel, David, Edward....
Thanks again for your help and info.
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The dna connection is so interesting. It appears to help trace back further back than some records go. I must get my son to do a test and then see what that turns up. Which firm was used in the test you mention? I will keep going with my tracing through paper records and post anything additional I find. I had been in touch with one Moodie family that went to Australia but his line was from the Fife area and he said that the Glasgow area Moodies were not connected to those in the East coast. However there was likely a time when they were all one family so who knows?
Thank you for keeping in touch. Irene
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For "irenaf"
Apologies for being so long getting back to you on the Ydna thing. Here is a link to our MOODY (all spellings) Ydna Surname Project page. We use the FTDNA labs and they give us a special rate if you test through this page.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rwmoody/dna/moody_dna_project.htm
Our Administrator Bob Moody has a link on there to his email and you can contact him for any additional info you might wish to find out. Its all very simple, private, etc. Its a Great way to Finally Know which branch of Moody's (Moodie's/Mudie's) you really belong to. I spent over 20 years looking into only 'English' Moody family trees because that's what I'd been told my family heritage was. Well unless we belong to some really obscure branch, that is Not what they Ydna test results showed us.
Most all (if not all) of the English Moody's are of the R1b types of genetics...our Moody's are "I1d" haploType (they call it) and Dr. Ken Nortdvedt who has spent a great amount of time and research on the HaploGroup "I" folks said that our "I1d" group is definitely of a Norwegian background somewhere waaaay back in time. We do NOT match to any of the English branches of Moody's and tons and tons of them have been ydna tested.
So my gut instincts, as I've said, until proven otherwise is that my own branch of the Moody tree came from Orkney back when it was settled by the Norwegians and that my tree came to Nor. America by way of Nor. Ireland, or directly from Scotland.
Thats what I'd like to find out.
Anyway, I hope you will be able to get a male born Moodie/Mudie from your family to agree to take the simple Ydna test (cotton swab to inside of your mouth) is all you do and mail it back post paid and that's it. They will email you the results and your all important HaploType which I of course will be hoping will show up as "I1d" and a match to our "beige" group in our ever growing Moody Ydna Surname project group.
Take care and if you should learn more or I do about our Moody/Moodie/Mudie families, I'll be back to post about it and I would also appreciate anything you might find out as well.
Cheers!
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You really have gone into this!!! I am so pleased you have shared this information - it gives me encouragement to keep going. I get a bit disappointed at times when I hit a brick wall. When I find out anything that might help I will be in touch - meantime thank you. Irene
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There are quite a few Moodies still living in the Greenock area. A really big family of Moodies some of whom went to school with me. No idea what their origins were going back generations but a lot of Greenock families have Irish roots. Greenock, I think I'm right in saying, had the highest number of Irish immigrants at the turn of 19th/20th century. My own family roots have a strong Irish connection.
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hi i don't know if this will help but on finding one of my moodie the spelling had changed to moody?
mine traveled bait ending in london so if it helps ill list them for you all moo dies act the last to spelt with a y instead of i.e.
robert my gt grandfather bathgate scotland 1865 died london
his father james 1839 denny stirlingshire
his father robert 1811 inverkeithing fife
his father john 1789 sconie fife
his father robert 1760 sconie fife
his father robert 1740 dumfermline fife died walls shetland
his father robert moodie dumfermline fife 1713
and his mother
henrietta moodie orkney
have more info if needed but not much more some of there wires came from renfrewshire but please keep us posted on your finds best of luck
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oh ops sevrel of them worked in mills in scotland and even my gt grandfather worked in the paper mill when he was 11