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Title: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: PhilA on Wednesday 22 June 11 20:28 BST (UK)
I am helping to research and update the Daventry War Memorial, Northamptonshire for the British Legion.

http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Northamptonshire/Daventry. 112 names recorded from Great War

We can not trace W J Wadsworth who died on 30th July 1915. Ancestry.com shows he was W W Wadsworth (not W J), Rifleman (Private), of 7 Bn Kings Royal Rifle Corps, Regt No R/2197 who enlisted at Rugby, Warwickshire. His Place of Birth is Hill Morton, Rugby (which is now part of SE Rugby) and is only 7 miles due north of Daventry.
There are many military connections between the two towns due to their proximity but we can not identify any civilian or military records of him in EITHER town!

We can not find his age, Birth Certificate, or a Census in Rugby (as no Wadsworths at all). There are some Wadsworth in Daventry and a couple of local villages but none have a W Wadsworth or a trail which can lead us to him. Even the Rifle Corps website does not list him under any of the Battalions either.

On Ancestry.com he is recorded on the Medal Rolls Index but not on the Pension or Service records. We wish to find his age, family and his war service. Please can anyone please help?  

Regards

Phil A
  
 
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: Craftyp on Thursday 23 June 11 08:30 BST (UK)
I doubt if I am being any help at all but could he have been born as John William and reverted his name round as my grandfather did. He was born James Thomas but later on became Thomas.  Even on his gravestone it is Thomas.

The reason I say this is because there is a John William born in the Daventry area in 1879  There again it is not in the birth area you state but I thought I would let you know anyway. Maybe you have already looked at this idea.

CraftyP
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: PhilA on Thursday 23 June 11 10:47 BST (UK)
Thanks

Your idea is a good one. But I've tried every combination, even leaving out initials, and tried different spellings of surname too. I've got a FT so I know about the fun of name-changing and transcription errors! Cheers for reply.

Phil
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: ainslie on Thursday 23 June 11 11:37 BST (UK)
Phil
Have you got this?
CWGC:
Name:    WADSWORTH, WILLIAM
Initials:    W
Nationality:    United Kingdom
Rank:    Rifleman
Regiment/Service:    King's Royal Rifle Corps
Unit Text:    7th Bn.
Date of Death:    30/07/1915
Service No:    R/2197
Casualty Type:    Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:    Panel 51 and 53.
Memorial:    YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Sorry, but I've no other ideas that you have not used already.
A
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 23 June 11 12:32 BST (UK)
The 1911 free index gives a 33 year old William Wadsworth in Daventry?

This might be him( from Family search)

Name: John William Wadsworth
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Nov 1879
Baptism/Christening Place: Daventry, Northampton,
Parents John and Ann.

And from FreeBMD

Births Mar 1879   
 
Wadsworth  John William     Daventry  3b 118


Carol
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 23 June 11 16:20 BST (UK)
A Mary Wadsworth married in 1919.....it might be the one whose hubby died in WW1  ;)

Marriages Jun 1919   


Griffith  William  to Wadsworth  Rugby  6d 1788   
 
Wadsworth  Mary  to Griffith  Rugby  6d 1788   

I wonder if the local paper carried a story about William Wadsworth dying in 1915?

Carol 

Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: seahall on Friday 24 June 11 09:57 BST (UK)
Hi All.

Just to link to the other topic of Phil's as a lot of work already done.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,537068.0.html

Sandy
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 24 June 11 10:08 BST (UK)
Thanks for the link Sandy- I had no idea that ALL the work I did yesterday morning had already been done by others in early June  ::)

I think the only new bit of info is that possible 1919 marriage for Mary Wadsworth(widow?)

Carol
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: seahall on Saturday 25 June 11 16:44 BST (UK)
Hi Carol.  :)

As we well know any glimmer of information is helpful and you are
on the ball with that.

Sandy

Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 25 June 11 17:06 BST (UK)
I suppose the parish records for Rugby in 1919 would be in Warks and not Northants?
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: PhilA on Saturday 25 June 11 18:06 BST (UK)
I suppose the parish records for Rugby in 1919 would be in Warks and not Northants?

But it looks like Rugby in his military records are incorrect as only one person exists - who was b in Daventry, then moved to Rugby?

Incidentally doing research over last 3-4 years I've seen many references to folk our on that border of Daventry district registering their children births in Rugby just to confuse things.

Note I'm onto a Frost hero too.
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: southistle on Saturday 25 June 11 18:16 BST (UK)
Births were registerred in the district where they happened.
Several Northants villages belong(ed) in Rugby district.

Lilbourne, Clay Coton, Stanford, Barby, Kilsby, Crick, Yelvertoft and Elkington
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: seahall on Saturday 25 June 11 18:18 BST (UK)
Hi Carol, Phil and southistle.

The Registration District sure covered some of our Parishes whose
Parish Records are in our Northants Record Office.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/rugby.html

Rugby Library hold a few P.R. for Northants.

Sandy
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 25 June 11 19:09 BST (UK)
Ah so looking up that 1919 marriage in the parish records isn't going to be straightforward  ::)

Oh well......
Title: Re: Daventry Great War WW1 Look-ups: W Wadsworth
Post by: seahall on Saturday 25 June 11 19:21 BST (UK)
We could link to Warks board.  :)

Done.

Sandy