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Some Special Interests => Occupation Interests => Topic started by: Emma Clara on Tuesday 21 June 11 16:43 BST (UK)
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Hello
I have an ancestor, Richard Ambler (1856-1949) who is recorded as being an Engine Driver in Shrewsbury. I'd like to find out more about this but don't know the railway involved - would it be GWR? If so, is it possible to find his employment details?
Many thanks
Emma
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Hi
What year on the census do you have him working at shrewsbury?
cheers cardiff :)
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply - 1901 he seems to be an Engine Fireman, and 1911 Driver - I've just looked again and it says 'London North Western Railway' on the 1911 census so guess not GWR. Sorry, not very clued up on railways!
Any help would be hugely appreciated
Emma
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hi
I see him 1881 as an engine fireman and again in 1901 and 1911 as an engine driver.
Go to http://www.greatwestern.org.uk
I am just trying to locate your londonnorth western railway that could be a GWR.
cheers cardiff :)
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Hi, sorry to be thick but does the GWR website mention Richard Ambler (I've searched and can't find him) or are you looking at census returns?
thanks!
Emma
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hi
London and North Western Railway is amn amalgamation of other railways 1846.
I believe you can find out info of railway info at the Public Office Ref is rail 410.
this info has staff info
In the railway act of 1921 and 1923 saw the formation ofthe ''Big Four'' railway companies -great Western, London Midland and Scottish , London and North Eastern and Southern. These companies kept their identities until 1947 themn on january 1st 1948 they were nationalised and became Regions of the Britsh RailwaysHope this is of some use
cheers cardiff ???
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Hi
No it does not mention Richard Amber but it will be of interest to see how he worked ? and what the great western was about. You may also find info to direct you to his employment?
cheers cardiff ???
ps info I found was on the census :)
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He would undoubtedly been a member of the union - NUR or ASLEF. They were both subsumed into the RMT.
The RMT has excellent records, and I think that could be your first port of call.
http://www.rmt.org.uk/
meles
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Thanks all,
seems to be that it become London Midland Scottish, so will see what I can find.
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Hi have sent you a personal message because of a persons details
website
http://www.lnwrs.org.uk
cheers cardiff :)
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He would undoubtedly been a member of the union - NUR or ASLEF. They were both subsumed into the RMT.
The RMT has excellent records, and I think that could be your first port of call.
http://www.rmt.org.uk/
meles
Meles: Definitely NOT. ASLEF remains independent to this day, founded 1880 and still going strong, my late father, and most other ASLEF members would have apoplexy at the thought of being subsumed into the RMT, ASLEF HQ Arkwright Road, Hampstead, London.
Back to the topic, the LNWR was subsumed into the LMSR when the grouping of mainline railways came into effect in Jan 1923, many of their records are held in the National Archives at Kew. A driver would almost certainly be a member of ASLEF, specially if he started in the footplate grade as a fireman or cleaner. Most of the very few footplate staff in the NUR had joined the railway in another grade eg, lad messenger before transferring.
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Hi
thats interesting to know ... Richard was a fireman in 1881 so that fits
cheers cardiff :)