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Title: Birth Certificate
Post by: alphapak on Monday 20 June 11 02:04 BST (UK)
I have an uncle supposedly born in Carlisle on 22 November 1887.  However, I have been unable to trace any record of that birth under his known name or any optional names.  Can anyone give me any clues as to how I can trace his birth?  He is recorded in subsequent Census records.

Janet Smith
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 20 June 11 03:11 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat Janet.

What is his name? Have you checked a few years either side of 1887?
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: alphapak on Monday 20 June 11 03:33 BST (UK)
Thank you for your prompt reply!  His name was Albert Edward Pattinson and I have searched everything I can think of!  Hopefully there may be something I haven't thought of.  His mother was supposedly Hannah Pattinson and his father Dan Pattinson.  However, Dan died in 1886 well before Albert was born and I have a feeling Hannah may well have been Albert's grandmother.  Possibly one of her daughters gave birth to Albert.  I cannot even find a boy birth in Carlisle for the date of Albert's supposed birth.  A mystery indeed.  Any help would be appreciated!

Janet
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: Stumped! on Monday 20 June 11 07:55 BST (UK)
Does the surname "Deans" mean anything.

There is the birth of an Albert Edward Deans registered in Cockermouth in the 4th quarter of 1887 which might be a possibility.

I can't find anybody of that name on the 1891 census.

Peter
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: Geoff-E on Monday 20 June 11 10:38 BST (UK)
Quote from: Stumped! on Monday 20 June 11 07:55 BST (UK)
There is the birth of an Albert Edward Deans registered in Cockermouth in the 4th quarter of 1887 which might be a possibility.

I can't find anybody of that name on the 1891 census.

There is an Albert Edward DEAN 2 Workington in 1891.
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: Stumped! on Monday 20 June 11 13:50 BST (UK)
Quote from: Geoff-E on Monday 20 June 11 10:38 BST (UK)
There is an Albert Edward DEAN 2 Workington in 1891.

Not that one, then  :(

Peter
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: alphapak on Monday 20 June 11 20:18 BST (UK)
Thanks - I have Albert Edward Pattinson in Whitehaven in 1891, living with his "mother" Hannah.  He is also in 1901 with his "sister" (but possibly his aunt, don't think she was his mother) Ellen, in Leicstershire (off the top of my head).  By 1911 he was in New Zealand.  Deans doesn't feature anywhere in our line.

Janet
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: alphapak on Monday 20 June 11 21:48 BST (UK)
Oops - not Leicestershire - Lancashire!

Janet
Title: Re: Birth Certificate
Post by: Just Kia on Tuesday 21 June 11 08:53 BST (UK)
Have you ruled out this one, just in case his middle and first names were switched as very many people seem to have done?
Q1 1888 Edward PATTINSON Whitehaven 10b 602 (a November birth could easily be registered in the first Q of the following year).

Scratch that, found him in 1891  :-\