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My great-grandfather was Hugh Loney. He was married to Mary (Petrie) in 1925 and I have their marriage cert.
However, I can find no record of Hugh's parents James Loney and Ellen (ms. O'Donnell). I have tried SP and irish websites for their marriage and have found nothing.
James Loney was a coal miner - deceased at the time of Hugh's wedding in 1925. Hugh was 31 and lived at 16 Elmvale Row.
Mary Petrie was also 31 and lived at 26 George St. Her parents were David Petrie (deceased) and Mary (Connell).
If anyone can help with the Loney search that would be great.
Gazza
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Hi Gazza,
Just to get you some information, have you tried viewing this death certificate? It may be of Hugh's mother and will supply details of her parents and husband, if known.
Helen Loney, or O'Donnell, died 1950 in Springburn, Glasgow aged 78 (b.c. 1872)
hume :)
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Do you have them in 1901
3 John Street Kirkintilloch Dunbartonshire
James Loney 34 coal miner born ENGLAND
Ellen 28 born Campsie Stirlingshire
Agnes 7
Hugh 6
James 2
Patrick 2 months
All children born Kirkintilloch
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Going back to 1871 looking for James in England there was only one born c1867
1871 RG10/4971/7/8
Haswell Colliery
Denis Loney 27 coal miner born ireland
Nancy 31 ireland
Patrick 6 Ireland
James 4 Haswell Durham
Margaret 1 Haswell
Now this family turns up in Carluke Lanarkshire in 1881
Denis's age is out and I don't have access to the original image. Also Nancy has become Agnes but her age is good. Margaret is missing/she would be age 11.
1881
Denis 56 coal miner Ireland
Agnes 42 Ireland
Patrick 16 Ireland
James 14 England
Denis 6 Glasgow
John 2 months Carluke
Mary Ann 9 Glasgow
Agnes 1 Bathgate Linlithgowshire
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Hume - that might be here as Ellen could easily become Helen - and the date of birth ties in by 1 year with Crisane's info.
Crisane - there was only 1 Hugh Loney born around the 1890s and he was from Kirkintilloch on SP, so I am becoming pretty certain that your info is the info I am seeking. Very surprised to see that James Loney was born in England though. Perhaps james was married to Ellen in England which is why I can't find any info on SP.
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y great-grandfather Hugh was born in 1895, any reason why he would not be on the census of 1901?
sorry - going blind - just seend hugh's name
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y great-grandfather Hugh was born in 1895, any reason why he would not be on the census of 1901?
sorry - going blind - just seend hugh's name
No you weren't going blind I had left him off and confused myself too! :)
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1891 Scotland
Glenluggie Freeland Pl
Dennis Loney 46 coal miner Ireland
Anges Loney 50 Ireland
Denis Loney 16 coal miner Glasgow
Agnes Loney 11 Armadale Linlithgowshire
John Loney 9 Carluke
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Thank Crisane - you have opened up a whole lot of info for me to record, and to hopefully trace Denis Loney back even further through Ireland. :)
Any thoughts on the marriage of John and Ellen though - as this isn't showing up anywhere?
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Have you checked this one for a transcription error
1887 NOLAN JAMES and DONNELLY ELLEN at SHOTTS (WESTERN DISTRICT) /LANARK
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no - haven't checked that one. James Loney (not John - oops) and Ellen O'Donnell to the one you list seems like a bit of a stretch.
Also - is there anywhere else I could be checking other than Scotlandspeople. Everytime I need to check a document it costs me 1-5 credits.
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Hi,
Hugh Loney, male
b. February 24th 1895 @ Waterloo, Hillhead, Kirkintilloch
parents - James Loney, coal miner and Helen Loney m.s. O'Donnell
married January 1st 1893 Bellshill
reg James Loney (March 7th 1895 @ Kirkintilloch)
:-\ I can't see a marriage on SP with those names though! It may be worth looking at his siblings' birth registrations to see what marriage date etc is given there.
All appear on SP as:
Agnes Loney, 1894
James Loney, 1899
Patrick Loney, 1901
all reg Kirkintilloch
hume
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Thanks Hume:
What does reg James Loney (March 7th 1895 @ Kirkintilloch) mean?
And where did you find this info?
Gazza
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It means the birth was registered by James on that date
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Hi Gazza,
sancti is correct; James registered his son's birth on March 7th 1895 at Kirkintilloch.
Did you manage to find any more details from his siblings' birth registrations?
hume :)
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I've been maxed over the last few weeks so haven't had much time to investigate further.
One anomaly that cropped up though was the death of Hugh Loney. I was told by a family member that Hugh died in the very late 1940's or early 1950s. Probably early 1950s though (where he would have been ~55 yrs old). However, on Scotlandspeople, there are only 2 deaths listed for Hugh Loney's during that period. One died in 1940 (b~1895) and the other died in 1953, but he was born in 1907.
I know that Hugh's son was serving in Burma in the late 1940s/early 50s, and it was during that time that is father Hugh died... Therein lies the conundrum.
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Hi there,
It does appear that Hugh died a while earlier than you and the family thought. The Hugh Loney who died in 1940 is indeed your man.
Hugh Loney, aged 45, general labourer (married to Mary Connell Petrie or Mirrilees)
d. September 10th 1940 @ 26 George Street, Glasgow
parents - James Loney, coal miner (dec.) and Helen Loney m.s. O'Donnell
death registered by Mary Loney, widow (September 10th 1940 @ Glasgow)
Looks like father James may have died 1915, aged 48 in Campsie, Stirlingshire, and Mary (widow) 1977 in Glasgow, aged 82.
hume
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interesting. I stumbled across a scottish mining web page that mentioned a mining accident in 1938 in which all survived but where a Hugh Loney suffered from fumes, and he was quite an elderly man - not sure if 43 years old would be considered elderly in 1938!. I wonder if that was him, and he died 2 years later possibly related to the incident - although you mentioned his job was general labourer...
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Nancy has become Agnes
That's not unusual. Agnes/Nancy/Nan/Ann(i)(e) can all be interchangeable.
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my gr grandfather was Patrick Loney b 1865 kilmood Ireland Patrick marr. Jane Mcmillan..family..james 1888 agnes 1889 helen 1890 jane1892 margaret 1894 denis1896 jane 1897 denis 1900 hugh 1903...Patrick was the son of Denis Loney and Agnes/Nancy McMillan The family lived in Haswell Durham nd Glasgow. my grandfather was hugh..he came to canada...jeannieb2
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Jeannie, this is great news, as it looks like we are related.
My direct line on the Loney side is my mum (maiden name Loney), gr-father Hugh Loney d-1978, gr-gr-father Hugh Loney d~1943, gr-gr-gr-father James Loney (born ~1867 with 7 siblings: Patrick, Margaret, Mary Ann, Dennis, Agnes, John), and finally my gr-gr-gr-gr-grandfather Denis Loney who married Nancy/Agnes McMullan (or McMillan?).
Do you have any further info?
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Hi ...I'll call you my 42nd cousin...Yes I do have a little more info..I thought I was the only one doing the Loney family History. my e-mail is (*). I have a pic of my gr grandfather Patrick and gr grandmother Jane McMillan with their children including my grandfather Hugh Loney taken in Glasgow..I believe it was taken around 1910 Will talk again
Jeannieb2
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It would seem we are 3rd cousins (once removed). Sound's better than 42nd cousins... It is interesting that your grandfather was called Hugh as well. On the Scotlandspeople web page, there were only 2 Hugh's listed around the early 1900s, and it seems one was my great-grandfather and the other was your grandfather, and they were first-cousins. I believe my great-great grandfather James was a coal miner and that was Denis's profession as he came over from Ireland to Glasgow, via Durham.
I recently found out that another member of the Loney family has done some research so we'll see what she has found out. Once I have your email address, I will send you a copy of the Loney tree as I have it at the moment.
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do you know if mary loney had a middle name and what it was.?also were any of these people related to a william.?
T.
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T. I'm not aware of any middle name, or any distant William Loney.
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My great-grandfather was Hugh Loney. He was married to Mary (Petrie) in 1925 and I have their marriage cert.
However, I can find no record of Hugh's parents James Loney and Ellen (ms. O'Donnell). I have tried SP and irish websites for their marriage and have found nothing.
James Loney was a coal miner - deceased at the time of Hugh's wedding in 1925. Hugh was 31 and lived at 16 Elmvale Row.
Mary Petrie was also 31 and lived at 26 George St. Her parents were David Petrie (deceased) and Mary (Connell).
If anyone can help with the Loney search that would be great.
Gazza
Hey Gazza hope I am able to help my gran was Mary Petrie who lived 29 George street Glasgow and married Hugh Loney , there son Hugh Loney is my dad ,in past years he was in Burma ,all you past information matches ours ,I have two nephews doing the family tree .Doyle61