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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Laois (Queens) => Topic started by: kazzy1 on Thursday 16 June 11 22:01 BST (UK)
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Hello,I am trying to find the marriage of my grandparents,Patrick Cashin to Mary Lonergan,I can only think that it was sometime about 1911,my grandfather's birth is 1877,grandmother 1891.
They lived in Durrow laois and died there,grandfather died in 1961,grandmother 1957.
I am guessing the year as their eldest daughter Mary was born in 1912.
Grandmothers father was Thomas Lonergan ,mother Mary.
granddads father was William and mother ,Margaret Kelly
I have searched the LDS,but cant find anything,I tried searching Abbeyleix as their deaths were registered there,but,still nothing.
I would be grateful for any help.
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Have you located Patrick and Mary on the 1911 census to confirm where they are living, and see if they are married at that time ?
p.s. was Mary born in Durrow ?
Shane
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Hi Shane!
I have found her on the 1911 census age 9,living in house 6,Durrow Town parks,her birth says Queens county
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wouldn't 1911 be a little early then for a marriage ?
I found a possible marriage but it's quite a bit later than you mentioned :
Name: Patrick Cashin
Registration district: Abbeyleix
Event type: Marriage
Quarter and year: Jan - Mar 1918
Volume : 3 / Page : 257
name: Mary Lonergan
[same index references as Patrick]
are you sure about Mary Cashin's year of birth ?
Shane
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Hi Shane!
I have found her on the 1911 census age 9,living in house 6,Durrow Town parks,her birth says Queens county
I think that should be 1901 - Lonergan family (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Durrow/Durrow_Townparks/1643104/)
I presume this is Patrick and his family in 1911 - Cashin household (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Durrow/Course/784585/)
and this looks like it may be the Lonergan family in 1911... but Mary jnr is absent.. Lonergan household (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Durrow/Course/784585/)
Shane
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yes they are the right family.
I had the wrong date on the census,when she was 9 was the 1901 census.
they are her family Lonergans,which i had,it was mainly the marriage which was confusing me.
Shane !I keep forgetting how to go back if a message comes through ,while i am typing,remind me ,if you will,what do i click on.
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Not the marriage, but would this be family members.
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yes they are the correct family,
I was checking my tree,it seems they had a child Mary in 1912 then son William 1914 and then Margaret 1918.
after those they had another 5 i beleive.It seems they weren't married untill their 3rd child,it seems hard to beleive as they were catholics so i would of thought it would be difficult way back then.
I have all the memorial cards for their children.
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Wow thats amazing!I have only just seen the photo.
Thanks Seanmac
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Have you located Mary on the 1911 census ?
I'm not seeing any potential marriage matches in the Abbeyleix registration district, so wondering if maybe they married somewhere nearby - where Mary was living..
Shane
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Hello there,
I haven't found Mary on the 1911 census,I noticed a Mary lonergan in kilkenny age 17 domestic servant,but she was born in kilkenny,and too young.
I think you are correct with the marriage of Patrick and Mary in Abbeyleix 1918.
I vaguely remember my mother mentioning Mary (aunt maisie) as having the name Cullen,though how right that is i cant say,as my mother was quite ill by then,and tended to get things muddled.
I did wonder if Mary or Patrick had been married before,as son William was born 1914 and daughter Mary was born 1912, their next child was Margaret born 1918 and there were 5 more after ,including my mother Hester.
I can't imagine them waiting till 1918 to marry,maybe thats why i cant find Mary.Lonergan.I have tried putting in the name Cullen,but haven't found anything .
Still ,I must Thank you Shanew,as i beleive the marriage you found is correct,I take my hat off to you,it would have taken me a long time to find(if ever).
T.