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Hi new to this but does anyone know how you can find address and who lives there, ie 99 backcroft street in manchester in1881,I'm looking for an Elizabeth Stevenson who says she was living there in 1883 when she got married. Will
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1881 census is free to search, and , I believe, can be searched by address.
Or you can look for your Elizabeth, and see if she is there, and if not then where she actually is!
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Having said that , nothing is coming up
What age was your Eliz. and who was her father on marriage cert (name and occupation)?
If we cant get her that way - then who did she marry - can we get her in 1891 and find her yr and place of birth that way?
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You could also try Historical directories, which has a street directory for 1883 Manchester (cannot check at the moment, as it doesn't appear to be loading right now - its a great site but does fall over from time to time)
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/
:) Barbara
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I can find no Backcroft Street in Manchester in the 1881 or 1891 censuses, or in the Directories
Stan
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Having said that , nothing is coming up
What age was your Eliz. and who was her father on marriage cert (name and occupation)?
If we cant get her that way - then who did she marry - can we get her in 1891 and find her yr and place of birth that way?
[/quote Hi I have her in the 1891 census and have her marriage certificate to James Jones in 1883 ,her father was John Stevenson who was born in Padiham, there is I believe a Backcroft st in Padiham but imagined that because they were married in manchester that that is where backcroft st would be,the real problem is that I am trying to pursue her husband James Jones who says he was born in Holywell in 1861 but I have sent for every birth certificate for that year in Holywell and none are correct,will
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I can find no Backcroft Street in Manchester in the 1881 or 1891 censuses, or in the Directories
Stan
It could be Back Croft Street, except there is no 99 Croft Street in 1881
Stan
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I am trying to pursue her husband James Jones who says he was born in Holywell in 1861 but I have sent for every birth certificate for that year in Holywell and none are correct,will
What was the name of his father on the marriage certificate?
The 1891 census says he is aged 30, so he could have been born in 1860?
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Hi,
Not sure if this is any help :-\
If you search for Elizab.A. LEES age:9 in Civil parish: Ashton Under Lyne she is living in Back Croft St. You could then look back and forward through the images, unfortunately the houses don't have numbers and I can't see an Elizabeth STEVENSON but maybe someone else will have more luck.
Regards,
Daisy
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Doing an address search for Back Croft Street (I also tried variations!) anywhere in Lancashire in 1881 comes up with just 1 hit - Ashton under Lyne.
I have looked at all the families listed - no Stephenson (or variation).
Padsiham is in Burnley district, but Croft Street in Burnley only goes up to number 58.
Croft Street in Manchester only shows houses 6 to 9.
In fact none of the streets beginning Croft have a house number anywher near 99? ???
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I am trying to pursue her husband James Jones who says he was born in Holywell in 1861 but I have sent for every birth certificate for that year in Holywell and none are correct,will
What was the name of his father on the marriage certificate?
The 1891 census says he is aged 30, so he could have been born in 1860?
Hi His father is Joseph,but I have not been able to pair them up in any census welsh or english, I may end up sending for every birth certificate in 1860 -1863
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Hi His father is Joseph,but I have not been able to pair them up in any census welsh or english, I may end up sending for every birth certificate in 1860 -1863
Why? That's very expensive!
Just state on the form the father's name you require. No matches = no cost!
You can also search, and order from, www <dot> northwalesbmd.org.uk
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Doing an address search for Back Croft Street (I also tried variations!) anywhere in Lancashire in 1881 comes up with just 1 hit - Ashton under Lyne.
I have looked at all the families listed - no Stephenson (or variation).
Padsiham is in Burnley district, but Croft Street in Burnley only goes up to number 58.
Croft Street in Manchester only shows houses 6 to 9.
In fact none of the streets beginning Croft have a house number anywher near 99? ???
I have a record for what appears to be her great grandfather( Henry Stevenson) living in Whalley Burnley in 1841in Backcroft Street But no number recorded
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Hi His father is Joseph,but I have not been able to pair them up in any census welsh or english, I may end up sending for every birth certificate in 1860 -1863
Why? That's very expensive!
Just state on the form the father's name you require. No matches = no cost!
You can also search, and order from, www <dot> northwalesbmd.org.uk
Didn't know you could do that
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1841 HO107/506/27/5
Back Croft St, Burnley
Henry Stevinson/Stevenson 77 y collier
Sarah 77 y
y = yes, born in county
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1841 HO107/506/27/5
Back Croft St, Burnley
Henry Stevinson/Stevenson 77 y collier
Sarah 77 y
y = yes, born in county
Thats the one , but didn't think she would be married from that address as they were married in miles platting manchester and his address was 7 nelson street miles platting
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what's on the marriage cert?
Names of fathers, witnesses,
think you've now said the addresses, Nelson St and Back Croft St.
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He's quite consistent with his name and place of birth, 1860 Holywell Flintshire.
In 1901 they're at 38 Nelson St, so didn't move far.
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He's quite consistent with his name and place of birth, 1860 Holywell Flintshire.
In 1901 they're at 38 Nelson St, so didn't move far.
on the marriage certificate in may 1883 they both claim to be 21 correct for her as I have her birth certificate,but I think you only need to put 21 or full? and in 1911 they are back in 7 nelson street, odd!
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what's on the marriage cert?
Names of fathers, witnesses,
think you've now said the addresses, Nelson St and Back Croft St.
His father was Joseph Jones hers was John Stevenson of Padiham( no problem tracing his family back to 1432) the two witnesses were Thomas Young and Mary Vernon who married in 1885
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No help with the witnesses then. :-[
So you'll have to try a birth cert, specifying the father's name. Although he could have been using a stepfather, or grandfather's name. ooooh so frustrating.
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1881 census is free to search, and , I believe, can be searched by address.
Or you can look for your Elizabeth, and see if she is there, and if not then where she actually is!
any idea how you can search the census by address i have a subsciption with ancestry but have no idea how to search by address
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No help with the witnesses then. :-[
So you'll have to try a birth cert, specifying the father's name. Although he could have been using a stepfather, or grandfather's name. ooooh so frustrating.
Hi, tried specifying the fathers name on the online order form but they still sent it out with the wrong fathers name , but there's only two left in 1860 so i might as well carry on, just ordered the penultimate one ,still specifed the father just have to wait and see what happens, william
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When you want them to check fathers name you must order it and say that you do NOT know the ref number- or that will override the rest.
It will then take you to another page where you can specify fathers name/or whatever.
You can't check censuses by address on Ancestry,except the 1881,only on Find My Past.What did it say his father did on the marriage cert?
Carol
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1881 census is free to search, and , I believe, can be searched by address.
Or you can look for your Elizabeth, and see if she is there, and if not then where she actually is!
any idea how you can search the census by address i have a subsciption with ancestry but have no idea how to search by address
Search for the parish and then go through the images one by one, seems a bit tedious and you have to remember that a parish boundary may be moved which means looking in an adjoining parish in different census years but it's useful to do, you can pick up neighbours and witnesses etc in the nearby houses and streets.
The lack of indexed addresses isn't the barrier some people believe it to be, prior to having indexed searchable name database sets census searching had to be done by trawling through the parish image by image.
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When you want them to check fathers name you must order it and say that you do NOT know the ref number- or that will override the rest.
It will then take you to another page where you can specify fathers name/or whatever.
You can't check censuses by address on Ancestry,except the 1881,only on Find My Past.What did it say his father did on the marriage cert?
Carol Hi,thanks for that, His father Joseph's occupation is hard to make out but possibly "joiner",as James is a bricklayer that might fit. also I cannot find any James Jones born 1860 ish in holywell with a father Joseph on any census at all, and therefore only pick him up at his marriage in 1883 in manchester, the shame of it is I lived with my Grandfather William Jones son of James,but never asked him ,wasn't interested then.William