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Title: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Wednesday 15 June 11 04:45 BST (UK): Is looking for information on William sweet and Selina Cobby both born in the 1800s sometime they married in 1880 in redfern Sydney Australia .
that is all i seem to know :)
Title: Re: sweet & cobby
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 15 June 11 04:59 BST (UK): Hi ashbrookehistory :)

Do you have their marriage certificate? This should give you their parents' names and allow you to trace back further.

Cheers
Prue
Title: Re: sweet & cobby
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Wednesday 15 June 11 05:06 BST (UK): no sorry.
Title: Re: sweet & cobby
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 15 June 11 06:38 BST (UK): Hi again :)

If you want to trace backwards, you will really have to buy the marriage certificate (or a transcript of it).
You can find the reference for the marriage registration (and other births, deaths and marriages) in the index of the NSW BDM Registry:

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm

The reference number for your couple's marriage is 2118/1880, and they were married in the Redfern district.
There is a link on the results page (if you do a search for the marriage) to enable you to buy a certificate online, or you can get a transcription agent to copy out the information for you instead - this is a cheaper option but you then won't get to see the original handwriting.
There is a link to info about the transcription agents on the NSW Resources page of the Australia board here on Rootschat:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,399.0.html

Have you looked on the Trove digitised newspaper site to see if your relatives are mentioned in the papers of the day?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

I will move this topic to the Australia board where I think you will get more specific help :)

Cheers
Prue
Title: Re: sweet & cobby
Post by: cando on Wednesday 15 June 11 07:25 BST (UK): This appears to be Selina A[nn]'s birth and her siblings' birth regs [including a brother Alfred...see electoral roll below]
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dqw/

Her parents' marriage - parish record
V1845232 77/1845
COBBY George
LAVETT Jane
JB = Presbyterian St Andrew's Scots Church, Sydney

William and Selina's children's births
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dqv/

Any of the chn's birth cert should name Wm's place of birth.

New South Wales Electoral Roll 1903
NSW/Parkes/Strathfield
SWEET Selina Richmond Road, Flemington Domestic duties
SWEET William Richmond Road, Flemington Labourer
SWEET William Thomas Richmond Road, Flemington Stamper
and also
COBBY Jane Richmond Road, Flemington Domestic duties
COBBY Alfred Richmond Road, Flemington Labourer

1930
SWEET Selina Anne 90 John Street, Lidcombe HD

Her death
15316/1935
SWEET Selina A
Father John Mother Jane
District Hornsby

As Selina is the only SWEET at the 1930 listing I wonder if this is William's death
6079/1929
SWEET    William
Father William Mother Ann
District Auburn

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: cando on Wednesday 15 June 11 08:07 BST (UK): William's funeral notices in 1929
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dqz/

Selina's in 1935
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dqx/

There is no marriage on the NSW indexes for William SWEET to an Ann, however there are two children registered from 1858.

This is the only death for an Ann SWEET

6909/1901
SWEET Ann
Father Walter Mother Sarah
District Richmond

On TROVE there is a 1873 marriage notice for a Sarah SWEET dau of William SWEET of Richmond. Perhaps a dau of Wm and Ann but not born in NSW.

Cando
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 15 June 11 08:20 BST (UK): When WILLIAM THOMAS SWEET enlisted for ww1 , he was a metalworker and his mother S. SWEET was given as Next of Kin.

Her address then was Henley Rd. Redfern.

By 1918 when a pension was granted to WILLIAM, he was living at "Carinya" Norval Street, Auburn.

Sue
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: cando on Wednesday 15 June 11 08:26 BST (UK): Selina Ann and William are buried at Rookwood Cemetery - Old Church of England, Section 3, Row 12, Grave#365

William SWEET
1 Apr 1929 74 years
My husband

Selina Ann SWEET
2 Sep 1935 77 years
Wife of above

So now we we know that William was born c1855 with parents William and Ann.

Also at Rookwood Old Church of England Section G, Row 10 Grave#321

Arthur Bowen SWEET
23 Feb 1883
11 mths

Albert Edward SWEET
25 Jan 1887
4 yrs 3 mths

Jane COBBY
2 June 1910 81 years
Grandmother of above

Death
4852/1910
COBBY Jane
Father John Mother Jane
District Burwood.

Once again certificates or transcriptions of certificates wil help you further with your research. I will see if I can find anything on William and Ann SWEET in England.

Cheers
Cando

Cando
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 15 June 11 08:50 BST (UK): William Thomas married after his discharge.

REG 2821 IN 1918 SWEET WILLIAM T
TO DOLMAN ALICE M
At AUBURN

Sue
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 15 June 11 09:02 BST (UK): Alice's birth

REG 15838 In 1885 DOLMAN ALICE M
Father EDWARD
Mother MARGARET
At BRAIDWOOD

Alice was one of 5 or 6 children born in the Braidwood area to Edward and Margaret.

Sue
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Wednesday 15 June 11 11:21 BST (UK): Thankyou for the help guys its help me out a lot .
:D with what you have so far
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 15 June 11 11:37 BST (UK): Hi ABH
What in particular were you hoping to discover in your query and how are you connected or involved with EDWARD and SELINA.

It is possible more information is available.

(By the way, not all guys here!! Lovely ladies very present too ;D)

Sue
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Wednesday 15 June 11 11:54 BST (UK): I think you meant William and Selina, are gr gr grandparents to our ashbrooke side ,
And yes if there is more out there i would love to have it .
and i am a lovely lady to .sorry :D
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 15 June 11 12:58 BST (UK): And yes if there is more out there i would love to have it . ABH

To move forward then, perhaps you can offer further details

At present we have not really learnt from you what direction you would like the search to take.

Helpers here have many resources {some of them not free, but subscription -based} so in order to get the best from your inquiry, what else can you tell us?

Sue
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Wednesday 15 June 11 13:12 BST (UK): With the Sweet and Cobby's not much i don't know a lot on them at all.and the family don't know much to tell me . ??
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: Skipworth on Wednesday 15 June 11 13:58 BST (UK): Quote
William and Selina, are gr gr grandparents to our ashbrooke side ,

Perhaps you could explain actually how they are connected :)

It is a little difficult to work out what you are seeking.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Wednesday 15 June 11 23:24 BST (UK): William and Selina,s daughter Jane was my husbands grandmother .
because know one talk about the family in the old days there is not much we know on them.i would like find out where they came from(way back) where they lived what they worked at,when they died are they from a convict family :)
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 16 June 11 01:04 BST (UK): Is this the marriage of JANE?

REG 9457 IN 1917 LEBRANT RUPERT
To SWEET JANE
At AUBURN

Sue
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Thursday 16 June 11 01:38 BST (UK): Yes it is .
Jane was married 3 times :)
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: L on Sunday 21 August 11 17:02 BST (UK): Hi,

I have just found this post, and can take you a little further back. Selina Cobby's father George, was the son of William Cobby and his wife Ann(nee Blackman). He was born in Hastings, England. George went to Australia aboard the 'Orontes' in 1838, along with his mother and stepfather, Richard Hamilton, and his other siblings. His father William had died a few years earlier. I don't have all the details in front of me at present, but if you would like more information, please let me know.

Regards,
Lesley
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: cando on Monday 22 August 11 03:28 BST (UK): Hi Lesley :)

Welcome to rootschat :)

I am sure your information will be most welcome by ashbrookehistory.

Cheers :)
Cando
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: RosM on Sunday 12 August 12 16:44 BST (UK): Hi,
Have just found this posting and realise there has been some time lapse since your last posting. My connection with the Cobby/Sweet family is through Jane's sister - Marguerite Priscilla Sweet - she was my grandmother. If you would like some information on this side of the family please message me. Regards, Roslyn
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Tuesday 09 October 12 04:22 BST (UK): hi :)
sorry i to so long to get back to you.
my hubby was saying he knew you grandmother he said she was aunty rita.
if you have any more info on the family or photos please pass them on jane sweet was my hubby grandmother .
hope to talk soon A.F.H
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: RosM on Tuesday 09 October 12 05:46 BST (UK): Hi, sounds like the same family - "your husband's Aunty Rita" was my grandmother - Marguerite Priscilla Sweet - married to William Simper Pilgrim. So your husband must be connected to Doreen Ashbrooke who lived at Mt. White, had a daughter Pam. Would really like to get in touch with Pam, if possible. Does she still live at Narara - that is only 5 minutes from me. I should be able to get my hands on some photos (not many I may add) Regards, Roslyn Maher (nee Pilgrim)
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Sunday 07 April 13 11:31 BST (UK): Quote from: RosM on Tuesday 09 October 12 05:46 BST (UK)
Hi, sounds like the same family - "your husband's Aunty Rita" was my grandmother - Marguerite Priscilla Sweet - married to William Simper Pilgrim. So your husband must be connected to Doreen Ashbrooke who lived at Mt. White, had a daughter Pam. Would really like to get in touch with Pam, if possible. Does she still live at Narara - that is only 5 minutes from me. I should be able to get my hands on some photos (not many I may add) Regards, Roslyn Maher (nee Pilgrim)

HI sorry again i havent got back but doreens daughter that lives at narara is bev her last name is speed pam lives in sydney , you said you had one are photos last time we spoke i would love to see them
will talk soon linda :D
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Monday 08 April 13 01:06 BST (UK): Quote from: L on Sunday 21 August 11 17:02 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have just found this post, and can take you a little further back. Selina Cobby's father George, was the son of William Cobby and his wife Ann(nee Blackman). He was born in Hastings, England. George went to Australia aboard the 'Orontes' in 1838, along with his mother and stepfather, Richard Hamilton, and his other siblings. His father William had died a few years earlier. I don't have all the details in front of me at present, but if you would like more information, please l

Regards,
Lesley
yes if you could get some more info on the cobby that would be good
georges mother and sibblings thanks linda :D
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: L on Monday 08 April 13 08:47 BST (UK): Hi there,

Here is what I have for George Cobby etc.

Parents William Cobby and Ann Blackman married 20.04.1819 at Hastings St Clements. William was born in 1799 in Eastbourne Sussex and baptised at St Marys Eastbourne, 06.10.1799. He died in Hastings and was buried 19.01.1835 at St Helens. William was a painter. Ann Cobby later married Richard Hamilton at St Helens, Ore on 04.09.1836.
Children of William and Ann:
Caroline, ch. 03.10.1819, buried 19.03.1820
Charlotte ch 14.04.1821, bd 02.02.1821
Charles ch 05.04.1822
George William ch 02.05.1824
Mary Ann ch 02.07.1826, bd 28.04.1830
Winifred ch 06.02.1830, bd 28.04.1830
Edwin ch 06.03.1831
Elizabeth ch 01.09.1833
Susanna ch 05.07.1835

The above baptisms and burials were all at St Helen'sChurch, Ore.

Charles, George William, Edwin, Elizabeth and Susanna, all travelled to Australia. Whilst I have been able to follow Charles and George in Australia, I have no further information on the other siblings. A half sister Amelia, was born to Ann and Richard Hamilton.

Hope this is of some help.
Regards,
Lesley
Title: Re: SWEET & COBBY
Post by: ashbrookehistory on Tuesday 01 March 16 03:32 GMT (UK): Quote from: RosM on Sunday 12 August 12 16:44 BST (UK)
Hi,
Have just found this posting and realise there has been some time lapse since your last posting. My connection with the Cobby/Sweet family is through Jane's sister - Marguerite Priscilla Sweet - she was my grandmother. If you would like some information on this side of the family please message me. Regards, Roslyn
Hi
I would love some more info
On your grandmother please
Sorry it took so long to get back to you

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