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Title: any idea where this place is
Post by: scrapper on Monday 13 June 11 18:54 BST (UK)
ON  one of the 1911 census it has this down as a place in Monaghan it looks like LE CLAISA  but I've seached the place names and can't find anywhere that matches

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Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: Indaloman on Monday 13 June 11 19:19 BST (UK)
Could it be Le Clastra?
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: heywood on Monday 13 June 11 19:19 BST (UK)
Hello,

Could it be Lecklevera?  I think it is a strong possibility.

http://www.thecore.com/seanruad

best wishes
heywood
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: scrapper on Tuesday 14 June 11 07:23 BST (UK)
it's trying to work out what someone with a irish accent wouuld sound like to a north east geordie then the  newcastle chap writing down what he thinks it sounded like
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 14 June 11 07:38 BST (UK)
Here's a list of townlands of County Monaghan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_townlands_in_County_Monaghan
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: scrapper on Tuesday 14 June 11 08:20 BST (UK)
thanks for the list there's a awfull lot of places that it could be  :(
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: Mr J T Arthur on Tuesday 14 June 11 10:43 BST (UK)
I agree with Heywood, next you need to cross reference the name with the townland which we don't know.

Good luck,

J.T.A.
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 14 June 11 13:42 BST (UK)
Why don't you check for that surname in Monaghan on census? If he/she is a resident of there why not look for kin?
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: scrapper on Tuesday 14 June 11 15:37 BST (UK)
is there a census for Monaghan ? I thought they were all distroyed

surname is Green  and the whole family came over to the UK sometime in the 1850-60s last child I have was born 1845 in Ireland  they would have been baptised in Ireland in the RC church  No more children born after that  or if there were any they might have died as they aren't on any census.
The 1911 has been the only census that 2 of the children have given a place in Ireland all the others just say Ireland
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 14 June 11 15:49 BST (UK)
The first surviving census for all Ireland is 1901 (it and 1911 census are online free).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

See reply #2 in MONAGHAN RESOURCES to see what census records and substitutes for Monaghan might survive-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,508000.0.html
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 14 June 11 17:06 BST (UK)
Griffiths Valuation (c 1850s) has no Green surnames but there are similar ones - Greenan and Greene.
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
or
http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php

Coincidentally, there are Greenans in Lecklevera (Civil Parish Killeevan)
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: scrapper on Tuesday 14 June 11 17:46 BST (UK)
thankyou for all the info it's going to take me hours to look at all of it but well worth it if I manage to find anything
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: roilafferty on Wednesday 02 November 11 14:16 GMT (UK)
first on your posting looks like toombridge Antrim. then resided   ?????????????? what follows or is that a death cert and if it is where was the death registered. it may have been the name of a house  Roisin
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 02 November 11 14:18 GMT (UK)
Both places say Resident above the placename.

Added- looks like a phoentic spelling of Lecklevera townland (this was suggested earlier)
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: scrapper on Sunday 13 November 11 12:14 GMT (UK)
first on your posting looks like toombridge Antrim. then resided   ?????????????? what follows or is that a death cert and if it is where was the death registered. it may have been the name of a house  Roisin
it's a 1911 census
 I have found a couple of Greenan living in  LECKLEVERA on the griffiths valuation but so far no mathing births  or marriages
Title: Re: any idea where this place is
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 13 November 11 12:20 GMT (UK)
If you are searching in the civil registration index for births or marriages which took place in Lecklevera they will be listed under the registration district (Monaghan) rather than the actual townland.

Hint: to find registration district for a townland go to http://www.thecore.com/seanruad  and do search for the townland- this will show the Poor Law Union which is almost always the registration district.