RootsChat.Com

Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: nanabanjo on Sunday 12 June 11 21:44 BST (UK)

Title: still births
Post by: nanabanjo on Sunday 12 June 11 21:44 BST (UK)
Does anyone know when the registration of still  births began???
Title: Re: still births
Post by: Little Nell on Sunday 12 June 11 21:53 BST (UK)
1st July 1927.

Have a look in the lexicon under still births

http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/reflib-lexicon.php?letter=S&lang='.$lang.'&input_form=0

Nell
Title: Re: still births
Post by: Little Nell on Sunday 12 June 11 21:55 BST (UK)
 :-[

Sorry, I completely forgot to say Welcome to RootsChat.  :)

Nell
Title: Re: still births
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 12 June 11 22:37 BST (UK)
I believe it was 1927 - or thereabouts!
Title: Re: still births
Post by: nanabanjo on Monday 13 June 11 08:18 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for that information.....Joan
Title: Re: still births
Post by: nanabanjo on Monday 13 June 11 08:22 BST (UK)
Nell,
     Thank you for the welcome and the information .Joan
Title: Re: still births
Post by: nanabanjo on Monday 13 June 11 08:30 BST (UK)
Regarding burial of still births. It was common for the baby to be buried in the grave of anyone who was being buried on that day.  The gravedigger would cut a piece out of the side of the grave and interr it.  I don't think a record was kept.  I think it was just a favour of the gravedigger to bury the body in consecrated ground.  My stillborn sister was put into my grandfathers grave by my father. They didn't want her put in with strangers...........Joan..
Title: Re: still births
Post by: buzzby on Monday 13 June 11 09:24 BST (UK)
On this subject does anyone know whether a baby needs to be at full term to be registered as a child? The reason I ask is that I was told my grandmother died while giving birth (the baby died too) yet I cant find no info on the babys death, theres seems to be nothing registered, could this possibly be as the baby was not full term?
Would anyone have an idea as too why the child was never registered.
Thanks,
Buzzby :)
Title: Re: still births
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 13 June 11 09:44 BST (UK)
The legal definition of stillbirth is:
The Stillbirth Definition Act (1992) states: "any ‘child’ expelled or issued forth from its mother after the 24th week of pregnancy that did not breathe or show any other signs of life should be registered as a stillbirth."

Such stillbirths are recorded in a separate register - which is NOT on public view.
Only the parents (who must be named on the register) can order a copy of the certificate or, if they are deceased, a brother or sister can apply.

Before 1927 no such register existed.
Parents would often not bother with registering a birth followed by a death, because they then had to apply (and pay for) 2 certificates - Birth and death.
Title: Re: still births
Post by: buzzby on Monday 13 June 11 09:53 BST (UK)
Thankyou KGarrad thats very interesting to know, that is why I havent been able to find out anything.
thanks once again,
Buzzby
Title: Re: still births
Post by: nanabanjo on Wednesday 15 June 11 22:25 BST (UK)
     I wonder how I would go about getting any documentation of my sisters still birth now.?? This happened in about 1945, so there are no parents alive, or their siblings.  My mother was upset over the event and it was a terrible time for all concerned.  She told me all the details of the event but never mentioned a registration.
     Any suggestions???

     My fathers mother died a few days after childbirth and the baby died a day or two around the time.  The baby boy had a separate coffin and funeral. My father was 6 years old at the time and was always under the impression that the baby was in the coffin with his mother.  I found out differently when I contacted the cemetery office.


     The baby boy had a birth and death certificate but with no  christian name on just "boy".
Title: Re: still births
Post by: ScouseBoy on Wednesday 15 June 11 22:29 BST (UK)
I suggest, if you still live near to the place where he is buried,   go to the registration office and   tell them the information  about name and dates and the circumstances, and ask them to look in the register  for a birth and a death  with just a few days  between them.

Alternatively.   look up on findmypast.co.uk  in the date and year  for  the surname  and   no first name  just listed as boy,   then look to see  if there is a death recorded at about the same time  for no first name and age zero.
Title: Re: still births
Post by: cati on Wednesday 15 June 11 22:32 BST (UK)
You might find local cemetery records useful - the town cemetery where most of my ancestors were buried has many records of still birth burials.
Title: Re: still births
Post by: ScouseBoy on Wednesday 15 June 11 22:34 BST (UK)
You might find local cemetery records useful - the town cemetery where most of my ancestors were buried has many records of still birth burials.

Yes.   And the  baby section of the cemetery  tends to have its own little area, because they only need small plots.