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Title: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: KVT on Saturday 11 June 11 21:46 BST (UK)
Occupation given as a 'daler' for a 33 year old woman living in Armagh city.
What did this work entail?

Her husband was a 'general servant' whilst her daughter was a 'domestic servant"  - what was the difference?

KVT
Title: Re: 1901 CENSUS OCCUPATION: 'DALER'?
Post by: GR2 on Saturday 11 June 11 21:56 BST (UK)
A general servant carries out a whole range of jobs as opposed to a specialist, e.g. a footman, gardener etc. A domestic servant is a female servant who works in the house. You sometimes see the term general domestic servant where she does any type of work as opposed to a domestic servant who is specifically a cook, laundrymaid, housemaid etc. Not sure about 'daler'. Possibly a mis-spelling of 'dealer'?

Graham.
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 June 11 09:04 BST (UK)
Is this the family in 1901 census?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Armagh_Town/Banbrook_Hill/1010126

The original entry also says 'daler' but since none of the household could write they wouldn't be able to notice the spelling. Also, the family were born outside the area (Roscommon and Westmeath) so perhaps their accent was difficult to understand.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000377593/

I think it's probably dealer also.
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: KVT on Sunday 12 June 11 09:19 BST (UK)
Thank you both for the replies.

But I'm none the wiser!

What would a 'dealer' do ?

Thanks again

KVT
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: Billyblue on Sunday 12 June 11 09:35 BST (UK)
Thank you both for the replies.
 
What would a 'dealer' do ?

KVT

Not deal cards in a casino which is the current explanation!   :D ::) :P

It usually means they deal in old (second hand) wares.

Dawn M
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: GR2 on Sunday 12 June 11 09:38 BST (UK)
A dealer would deal! You often see folk listed as grocers and the like who merely bought in e.g. a few stone of sugar and sold it in small quantities to the people who lived nearby. She could buy and sell second hand clothes .... the possibilities are endless.

Graham.
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: KVT on Sunday 12 June 11 10:09 BST (UK)
A female equivalent to a 'rag and bone' man then?

KVT
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: GR2 on Sunday 12 June 11 10:37 BST (UK)
Could be much more specialised than that. Can you find her on another census and see if she is still dealing? Who knows, it might give a detail about what she is buying and selling.

Graham.
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: KVT on Sunday 12 June 11 11:26 BST (UK)

If it was informal trading would there have been lists of who was doing what in existence then?

In any event, she was dead by 1904, at a young age, just 39.

Thanks

KVT
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: GR2 on Sunday 12 June 11 11:49 BST (UK)
Don't think there would have been any lists. If she had been the householder, perhaps the valuation roll might say something, but it would be her husband who would appear on that, not her.

Graham.
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: dermo on Sunday 12 June 11 19:08 BST (UK)
I don't know about Armagh, but in the Dublin of my youth a dealer always meant someone selling fruit and vegetables, e.g. in a place like Moore Street where they are still referred to as dealers.

Dermo
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 12 June 11 19:58 BST (UK)
Certainly in Northern Ireland a dealer could have been selling almost anything so it's difficult to pinpoint a more exact description.
Title: Re: 1901 census occupation: 'daler'?
Post by: scunscan on Tuesday 14 June 11 01:10 BST (UK)
Egg dealer and such like was a common occupation for widowed or abandoned women in those days.