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Please could someone look up this marriage for me? I would like all details of Hugh Hughes, and witnesses' names if possible.
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Hi,
some of the details are available on Family Search - All Saints Runcorn, 3rd June, his father John Hughes, her father John Williams.
Junev
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Thanks Junev.
I have a problem with Hugh Hughes b 1844 Runcorn Mariner. Only one Hugh Hughes s/o Reese and Elizabeth, registered, and baptised and died (1911). Reece (Rice) born c 1816 did have a younger brother Hugh born c 1820.
I'm pretty sure Hugh b 1844 is double entered in 2 censuses first 1851, with his mother Elizabeth Rogers, formerly Hughes maiden name Dutton) and stepfather, and round the corner with his uncle Joseph Ormison (witness to his mother's first marriage in 1837) missing in 1881 and double entered again in 1901, on a dredger Barry and at home with wife Ellen Ravenscroft (m 1866, bachelor aged 22). I need to know who is the Hugh, son of John, who married Ellen Williams in 1858.
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Hello,
1861 RG9; Piece: 2598; Folio: 126; Page: 31
has Hugh born 1821 (40 yrs) Anglesey married to Ellen b 1839 (22 yrs) Runcorn.
Ellen's details fit Ellen Williams in 1851.
This Hugh is a clerk in a Canal Office.
Hope this helps
heywood
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Thanks Heywood,
it eliminates him from my enquiries, I think. The Hughes family of three brothers, Rice, Robert and Hugh and sister Ann I'm trying to track down seem to have been born in Liverpool. Hey Ho...
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1841 HO107; Piece 95; Book: 20; Folio: 5; Page: 4
has these people together in Runcorn which would look as though Hugh who marries Ellen in 1858 is the brother of Rice, Robert and Ann. ???
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That's why I want someone with access to the microfilms or transcripts to look at his occupation and also their wirnesses in case a sibling or someone I can link to them turns up for me! Rice died in 1849, of cholera, so he won't.
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continued; re Rice, Hugh Robert, Ann Hughes: But I know that Robert was born in Liverpool, (1861 census on a boat with nephew Hugh, s/o Rice). Since 1841 census has them all born out of Cheshire, I'm supposing (dangerous, I know) that they were all born in Liverpool.
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continued; re Rice, Hugh Robert, Ann Hughes: But I know that Robert was born in Liverpool, (1861 census on a boat with nephew Hugh, s/o Rice). Since 1841 census has them all born out of Cheshire, I'm supposing (dangerous, I know) that they were all born in Liverpool.
I can see Hugh in 1861 on a boat and a Robert b Liverpool who is a master on a boat but they are not together ???
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In 1861 They are together on the "Crinoline" - vessels Irish Sea It does not say Hugh is nephew, just "boy". In 1871 Robert is widowed still b L'pool on the "Hilda" vessels Torquay".
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Apologies - I see what you mean. Although they are together they have not been transcribed together.
I should have checked ::)
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I would be wary of linking them as uncle/nephew though at the moment- or to the family Robert/Hugh/Ann in Runcorn.
Do you have Robert in 1851? There is one here but age is out:
1851 HO107; Piece: 2179; Folio: 49; Page: 22
He is described as a boatman.
The baptism of the son Robert Samuel has father as a Mariner.
I can't see them in later censuses :( and the problem is that there are several Robert/Hugh people. :-\
Your Hugh, is the 'boy' born Runcorn and son of Rice/Reece. Is that right?
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Hugh s/o Rice with "Uncle" Robert on Crinoline 1861. Of course I can't prove it but there are several checks Robert b Liverpool (1841 not born in County), Hugh b Runcorn, ages of both check. Rice died 1849, so I think Robert takes his nephew Hugh's training on. I'll have a look at the Robert you found. Hard to find them because they areoften at sea, and seem to have bases in Liverpool as well as Runcorn.
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There is someone on the www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk also looking into this family. It's on the Forum under Liverpool and headed Rice HUghes carpenter and mariner 1841
You might wish to look at it to see what has been found there.
Gibel
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Gibel, thanks;I will.
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That'll teach me to look at my emails at midnight. Liverpool site is me, too! Bercause the family has Liverpool as well as Cheshire, I tried both sites. I'm waiting for Admin for Rice 1851 and Will of Robert 1873. can't see that anything else will progress me, now.
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Good luck - it does look quite favourable as you think. I tried to find other clues- marriages etc but to no avail.
heywood :)
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I think you need to go and study All Saints Runcorn baptism, marriage and burial records. There are copies at Runcorn library.
If you are a distance get your nearest LDS Family History centre to order you copies.
Gibel
PS Personally I think it's a good idea to make sure any board you post on knows you have posted elsewhere that way people trying to help don't duplicate research done already.
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Sorry to confuse you all, I haven't gone to 2 different sites on the same search before. I'll take note. I can get to Runcorn in (very) due course.
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I have become interested in this line helping a possible descendant.
His connection is through Hugh Reginald Hughes b.24 May 1909 Wirral, Cheshire. He is possibly the son of Hugh O. Hughes b.c.1876 and died June Q 1952
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Nameerf, Not sure now that yours are mine, now. Mine are from Runcorn throughout c19; came from Liverpool in early c19. Possibly Anglesey before. It's not far from Runcorn along Mersey to Birkenhead Tranmere and other parts of Wirral. Too many Hugh O Hughes b c 1876 are in 1881 census to help and no Hugh Reginald Hughes b 1909 Wirral is in 1911 census on Findmypast on simple search - tho I expect you have found that already. Do you have more to go on than that? (It seems that this is about 4x too long for a PM)
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Hi all,
Are you distant relatives? ;o)
Are any of these the Hugh Hughes we are descended from? He owned a farm in the Holywell / Nannerch / Berthagam area as far as I'm aware. I'm guessing the family had been in that area for quite some time - the excavations at the moment have uncovered buildings from the 1600s etc.
I would guess there was a large village or settlement there for some time as there would have been a church established there for some time - mention of the local church of St Mary being demolished in 1852 and rebuilt with a new name.
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Hi All,
Just seen this listing. I am a distant relative of Hugh Hughes who was a farmer and lived in Nannerch (Scybor Newydd) in the 1840's. His wife was Elizabeth. Does this mean anything to anyone?