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Title: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: hartay on Friday 10 June 11 05:09 BST (UK)
Seeking information on James and Lydia Taylor  Worlingworth Suffolk  their son William Taylor married  Eliza Boloomfied  and they, with their family came to Austrlia in 1852. i am a direct decendent
Title: Re: Taylor Suffolk
Post by: Keziah2 on Friday 10 June 11 08:58 BST (UK)
Hello Hartay

Welcome to Suffolk - hopefully this will be a start for you

1851C Shop Street, Worlingworth.

James Taylor c1786 born Worlingworth (Pauper)
Lydia Taylor c 1777 wife born Pulham St Mary, Norfolk
James Taylor widower c1811 born Worlingworth.

1841C
James & Lydia are living at the Swan Inn, Worlingworth.

Lydia appears to have been buried in Worlingworth 24 Dec 1858 age 80. 

Keziah

Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: hartay on Saturday 11 June 11 04:30 BST (UK)
Keziah,  thank you for your reply. I though my William's father was James but I wasn't sure, but this confirms it. I am directly connected to their son William who married Eliza Bloomfield and came with all his family to Australia.  Are you connected to the Taylor family If so do you want information on the Australian line.? I live in Tumut  Nsw Australia. Regards  Phyllis. Hartay
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 June 11 11:09 BST (UK)
James TAYLOR Married Lydia BROWS,
28 December 1801, St James, South Eltham, Suffolk, England
Both Single
Both signed with an X
Witnesses;
Sarah TAYLOR
Richard SMITH
(Source FreeREG www.freereg.org.uk)

Trish :)
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: annes on Saturday 11 June 11 12:06 BST (UK)
Taken from Worlingworth parish register.

James Taylor s/o John Taylor and Susanna his wife (late Susanna Carver) born and privately baptised 5th November 1784.

Some siblings:
Susanna 30th August 1778
James 5th January 1781
Ann privately baptised 20 Sept 1787
Susanna privately baptised 5 December 1794

James Taylor and Susanna Carver were not married at Worlingworth.
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 June 11 12:09 BST (UK)
These are the only Christenings I can find in Worlingworth, Suffolk to JAMES/LYDIA;
JOHN 02 November 1817
SUSANNA 29 September 1822
(both on Familysearch Pilot)
MARIA 19 March 1815 (on Familysearch.Org)

Family Trees have these Children to them;
CHARLOTTE 1801-1883, died Norfolk
JAMES 1806
WILLIAM 1808

Can you find any of them Annes please?
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: annes on Saturday 11 June 11 12:12 BST (UK)
Also from Worlingworth parish register.

James Taylor s/o James Taylor and Lydia his wife (late Lydia Brown/Brows?) born 21st August 1804 privately baptised 27th August 1804 and publicly baptised 7th February 1807

And some siblings:

Charlotte born 7 Mar baptised 11th Apr 1802
Edmund born 24th December privately baptised 29th December 1806 and publicly baptised 1st Feb 1807
William 1st July 1810
Henry 1st November 1812
Maria 19th March 1815
John 2nd November 1817 (4 weeks and one day old)
Susanna 29th September 1822 (born 4th Sept)

I also looked for James and Lydia's marriage at Worlingworth (not there) but while I was out, I see Trish has found it for you.


Anne
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: annes on Saturday 11 June 11 12:13 BST (UK)
Trish, I was typing these in as you posted  ;D
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 June 11 12:20 BST (UK)
Ok Annes I dont think I am up to Suffolk*Sues calibre ;)
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 11 June 11 12:23 BST (UK)
Excellent work Annes ;D

Hi Hartay
Now it looks like WILLIAM is confirmed as James/Lydias Son!
None of us are related to Taylors. We just enjoy helping people like yourself.

Greetings from Sydney,
Trish
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: annes on Saturday 11 June 11 12:29 BST (UK)
Hi again Trish, I have corrected my post to show that you found the marriage   :-[  :P  ;D
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: Keziah2 on Saturday 11 June 11 15:34 BST (UK)
Hello Trish

Goodness such a lot of wonderful info from Trish & Annes.  Re Trish's info on the marriage from Freereg the Parish is St James, South Elmham not Eltham - I have a transcript of those PR's here & the rest of the info is spot on.  The Banns for their marriage were called on 13th, 20th & 27th December 1801.

As Trish suggested I am not related to the Taylor's just happy to help.

Keziah
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: hartay on Sunday 12 June 11 05:36 BST (UK)
Thank you ll so much, it has confirmed some info I had a provided a lot more I do appreciate it. Hartay
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: vanessa2011 on Tuesday 05 July 11 23:04 BST (UK)
Hello, I am trying to determine whether the Janet Taylor born at Braidwood in NSW in 1860 to William and Eliza Taylor is the same family as being discussed here. Janet Taylor is my great great grandmother. I note that William and Eliza came to Australia with several children: William (1830), Henry (1833), Mary Anne (1835), Alfred (1836), Maria (1839), Caroline (1841), Dinah (1843), Martha (1845), and James (1848).

Can anyone confirm that William and Eliza had more children after coming to Australia?

Kind regards, Vanessa
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 06 July 11 08:26 BST (UK)
Hi Vanessa,
Welcome to Rootschat.
According to a family Tree I found Jane is the Daughter of WILLIAM born c 1829 To William TAYLOR and ELiza BLOOMFIELD.
Jane was ISABELLA JANE, Birth 19 July 1860, Little River, Braidwood, NSW.
She Married John Alexander TATE.
Is this your Jane?
If so then her Parents were;
William TAYLOR 1829=1914
Elizabeth BOWLAND 1833-1897
So therefore next generation back is;
William TAYLOR 1810-1892
Eliza BLOOMFIELD 1810-1885
And then back again;
James TAYLOR 1786
Lydia BROWS 1777

Interestingly NSW BMD has 2 Reg;
ISABELLA Taylor, 5694/1860 to William/Elizabeth
JANET Taylor, 5550/1860 to William/Eliza
Both Reg Braidwood

hartay will be thrilled I am sure to find another descendant of this Family.

Trish :)
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: vanessa2011 on Wednesday 06 July 11 08:34 BST (UK)
Hi Trish,
It appears that this is not my Janet Taylor..as she married John Torpey. I have her death cert. so I know for certain 1860 is her date of birth. Perhaps place of birth was recorded incorrectly?
Back to the drawing board!
Thanks for responding!
Vanessa
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 06 July 11 08:47 BST (UK)
Maybe the Janet 1860 is yours and the Isabella 1860 belongs to the other Tree.
Does your Janets Death Cert have her Mothers maiden name?
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 06 July 11 08:54 BST (UK)
Someone has your Janet who Married John Torpey as born 1860 Ballarat, Victoria to Alexander TAYLOR and Ann HODGES.
Janet died 1933
They only have 1 Child for Janet/John (I presume the one they are descended from);
ELIZABETH Ann Torpey 1878-1962
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: vanessa2011 on Wednesday 06 July 11 08:59 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your help Trish, this indeed is her.  :D

Kind regards, Vanessa
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 06 July 11 09:00 BST (UK)
Checking Victorian indexes I cant find a Birth Reg 1858-1861 for a Janet with Father Alexander.
Do you have Janet/Johns Marriage Cert?
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: vanessa2011 on Wednesday 06 July 11 09:02 BST (UK)
Hi Trish, Unfortunately no. The Taylors and Torpeys have been very difficult for me to trace. I remember now that I looked at the Vic indexes and found two other children to Alexander and Ann.
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 06 July 11 09:07 BST (UK)
They might have ended up in NSW as there are a Alexander/Anne/Annie Jane/Anne Jane having Children there 1876-1880
Have a look on NSW BMD.

Trish :)
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 06 July 11 09:09 BST (UK)
If you can I think the Marriage Cert is a must as it will have Fathers name occp etc.
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: vanessa2011 on Wednesday 06 July 11 09:10 BST (UK)
Thanks very much Trish!
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 06 July 11 09:14 BST (UK)
If you get the Cert let us know and I am sure others on the Australian Board can help more.
Some have access to Records I dont including Victorian BMD indexes that they own. There are some brilliant minds on there.
In fact a posting on there might be a good idea.
Cut and paste some of the info you have from here.

Cheers,
Trish :)
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: janglaschu on Saturday 29 October 11 16:54 BST (UK)
Hello Hartay, I'm connected to the Taylor family and am a direct descendant of James and Lydia Taylor through their son John. I have quite a bit of info on the family (much of it kindly provided by Geoff Robinson of the Worlingworth History group).

I haven't been able to get any further back with Susannah Carver (1740-1827), I don't know what parish she came from. John's (1746-1817) parents were James Taylor (b.c. 1717)  and Elizabeth Watling (b. 1718); I believe James was the illegitimate son of Sarah Taylor, and his father most likely a John Richards - John was a yeoman of Worlingworth, and he and James Richards of Bedfield agreed to pay £40 " to indemnify the parish from the bastard child of Sarah Taylor". Later John remembered young James in his will.

Your William and wife Eliza and family arrived in Sydney on 17 December 1852 on the ship "Hyspades". Their young son James (b. 1848) died at sea.

Please pm me if I can be of any further help,

Janet
Title: Re: TAYLOR - Worlingworth
Post by: hartay on Sunday 30 October 11 04:04 GMT (UK)
Janet,  thank you for making contact. Could you please Email me on
 *****   I live in Tumut NSW Australia and William and Eliza Taylor are my great great grandparents. Iwould be interested to see if you have information which I don't have.  hartay


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