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Title: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: weedickitygurl on Thursday 09 June 11 04:27 BST (UK)
Would like any information on him, he was married to a Eva Sarah Violet Dear and they might have had a son named Daniel and William?????????????????????
Then they came to Canada, Montreal? No other information, he might have passed away in Canada, and I have checked?????  He might have passed away in 1928?? Haven't got a clue.
ThankYou!
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: AMBLY on Thursday 09 June 11 08:15 BST (UK)
Hi

Eva Sarah V DEAR
BIRTH registered Jun Qtr 1895 in Kensington, London

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: AMBLY on Thursday 09 June 11 08:36 BST (UK)
Looks like Eva age 6 is in Kensington in 1901 with parents named John D DEAR 31 & Frances  25 plus siblings William 7 and Frances 3
RG13 /  Piece: 32 /  Folio: 45 / Page: 35

The 1911 Canadian Census can be searched (free) here:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/

There is a family  in Quebec:
189 Canning - St Antoine, Montreal, District 180, Subdistrict 3, ED 8
Head: William WILL 34, b April 1877 Quebec,  Tribal: Scotch , Nationality: Canadian, Reigion Prebysterian, Occ: Master Carter.
Wife: Eva WILL 16, b Feb 1895 England, Tribal: English, Nationality: Canadian, Religion: Anglican, Immigrated 1908.
Son: William WILL 1, b May 1910 Quebec

This looks like Eva S V DEAR arriving in Canada:
SS "Kensington" arrived Montreal 3 Nov 1907 out of Liverpool
Frances DEAR 31, wife, -----? Railway
Chas DEAR 15, Labourer
Eva DEAR 11, child
Frances DEAR 9 child

Looks like father/husband John DEAR went over earlier and works for the Railway.

Also looks like the right Eva on the 1911 Census, which in turn indicated William WILL was himself born in Canada.

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: weedickitygurl on Thursday 09 June 11 09:24 BST (UK)
That is wonderful, Thankyou!!!!!
So does tht mean that my grandad was not born in Scotland.  His (their) son William, my  Uncle, was born in canada, but, my father told me his eldest brother, was not born in Canada, but, in Scotland???? And I do not know his name? Maybe Daniel?
Also, my father said that his father, passed away when he was only 9yrs old, and my dad was born in 1919-so maybe my grandad did pass away in 1928? I haven't been able to find out where he died or any kind of documentation???

But, it is a start!
Thankyou AMBLY :)
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: weedickitygurl on Thursday 09 June 11 09:28 BST (UK)
Oh?  I noticed another sibling?  William aged 7??
Not a brother of my grandmothers?? She only had Charles, and Frances.
Don't know who this William might be???? Any way you could check that?
Thank You!
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: flst on Thursday 09 June 11 20:00 BST (UK)
Hi, I've also been checking out the censuses etc. for you & found a few family trees on ancestry including one which had a photos of William Will & Eva Dear. Eva's parents were said to be John D.Dear & Francis Kesiah R. Giradot. William is in Quebec in the 1901 census & living with his parents; Daniel & Ellen. Their nationality is down as Scotch & it does state Quebec as William's place of birth.So far I have seen that William & Eva had Daniel, Kenneth (died 12 April 1981 Ontario), Frances, Charles James (1915 - 1918)
Frederick (1919- 1982).This information will have to be verified of course!
Hope this helps,
flst
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: flst on Thursday 09 June 11 20:15 BST (UK)
Found the birth & baptism details of William, son of William John Charles Wiil & Eva ....
born 2nd May 1910, baptised 22nd May 1910. There is a Laura in the 1911 census but it doesn't give her age or relationship in the ancestry transcription.
Also, in the 1901 census Daniel Will, born Scotland in 1830, emigrated to Canada in 1845. His occupation in 1901 was a book keeper. Ellen, also born in Scotland,in 1840, emigrated in 1857.
Regards,
flst
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: weedickitygurl on Thursday 09 June 11 21:25 BST (UK)
yes I have been on ancestry, and found some information, looking for other family members as well....my dad had 4 brothers, Dan, Bill, Jack, and Ken....I had only met them, except Dan, when I was young, and when my own Dad passed in 1982, his youngest brother being Ken passed a year and a day before him...Jack and Dan lived?in Quebec, and the other including my dad all lived in Ontario, Canada....your information is quite correct, and I don't know of any Laura???  This still does not explain where my uncle Dan was born, either in Canada, or Scotland, I am a little confused as what too understand being was my grandfather, William Will(s) b orn here in Canada, or not?    You are fantastic, Ambly!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: flamencoguy on Tuesday 12 July 11 12:14 BST (UK)
Hello, I think its my family you are looking for.  My ancestors was originally from Aberdeen Scotland and traveled to Quebec Canada.  I am recently 5 minutes away from Montreal, where the Wills sisters live.  We do have someone by the name Eva, which my grandmother (Heather) calls "Aunty Eva."  Eva and William came here around late 1800's early 1900's.  I to have that document of the Census of April 15th I believe on page 17. 

Do you know Eva's kids name and their kids name? This would help a lot for we do not have many memories of ancestors.

My Grandmother's sister has tried to find relatives in Scotland.
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: flamencoguy on Tuesday 12 July 11 18:35 BST (UK)
Hello, I have read your email.  Not to sure how this site works.  I spoke with my grandmother and she told me that William could possibly be one of the brothers of her grandfather/great grandfather (not to sure which term she used).  Do you remember if someone in the family by the name Erskin? (not sure on spelling)  I remember my grandmother mentioning her name. 

Would be fun to see if there is a connection between us.

Just so there are no confusion, you are 5 hours ahead from me in time zones.   
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: Sharon01 on Tuesday 12 July 11 19:15 BST (UK)
Hi,

There is a Daniel Will in 1841 living at Long Acre, Aberdeenshire

Jean Will 40
Daniel Will 11  book seller apprentice
Alexander Will 8
William Will 5

All were  born Aberdeen & they were living with the Wallace family.

In 1861 Daniel is a soldier with the 78th Foot regiment in Aberdeen.

Can not see him 1851.

Sharon
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: spellboundone on Tuesday 01 May 12 06:33 BST (UK)
Hi!

My name is Terri Will AND I noticed your post seeking information on your grandfather, William Will husband of Eva dear.

By the way, Our last name is "Will" not "Wills" but everybody insists on putting an 'S'' on the end so if you've been having problems finding us, you mayy want to put just WILL in...through I'm sure you've done that and gotten every lawyer advertisement offering to draw up your will, been there.....

You ARE going to like this message because, as you can see, Wm was my Great Grandfather.  My Grand dad was William Will born 1920 in Montreal.  We are second cousins I guess....pretty close considering all of the thousands of people related but not as closely..

So, what do you want to know about William? How about we start off with providing you with a photo of him?  I have one of Eva too.  I;ll send you both and one of me. I Hope  I can upload them to you, I'm using my iPad and the damn thing doesn't always do what I want but dint worry, i will get them to you if I have to snail mail them OK!

lets see, I guess I will begin with Williams
date of birth which was 4 April 1875 in Quebec city, Quebec.. I have his birth certificate I can send you a copy.

He is shown to be living in Montreal Centre, Quebec in the 1891 Canaddian Census to see that you simply google it as "1891 Canada Census's. you'll see all kinds of cool sh*t on that!

I have his marriage certificate of his and Eva's marriage which took place In Montreal, Quebec at the Methodist West-end, St. Joseph Church, Quebec.  They were married on 28 June 1909.

Eva was born Feb 1895 (SHE WAS 14 and he was 34!!!)' She was born in Kennsington. I have EXTENSIVE history on Eva's ancestry going back to 1620 so far!!! She was born in Kennsington London England.  She immigrated herre on 3 November 1907 arriving in Montreal. She left England from Liverpool  she died in 1956 in Toronto I believe.

Back to Grandpa the old pervert, ha ha!. in the 1911 Census he is shown to be residing in Montreal st Antoine, Quebec.  You can find this on the Census as well.

Wm died on 8 August 1930 in Montreal Quebec

Wm's parents were Daniel Davidson  Will born 1831 died inn 1812. Born in Aberdeenshire Scotland, Died in Montreal.

Williams mother was Rodney Elder born 1836 in Aberdeenshire Scotland where she is shown to be living in Scotlands census records in 1841, 1851, 1861 (St. Nicholas Aberdeenshire Scotland) and shown ti Be residing in 1891 Canadian Census so immigrated here with Daniel between 1861 and 1891. She and Daniel were married on 28 November 1861 at St. Nicholas, Aberdeenshire Scotland. Rodney died in 1909...the same year my Grand Dad was born (their first grandson) from Eva and William.

Daniel and Rodney had the following kids:

Eva and William had the following kids and here they are:William (my beloved Grand Dad), Laura born 1911, Daniel Alexander Will (1812), Charles J (1915) and Uncle Fred Will 1919.  So which one of the siblings is your mother or father? Laura?

Now...  back to William Sr's parents who were Daniel and Rodney  Elder.  They had a whack of kids and those kids are: Jean (1866-19490, JAMES B. 1869, WILLIAM (OUR GRANDPA B 1875) AND RODNEY ELDER WILL Born 1878.

Daniel's father was George Will born 1808 and his mom was Jane Harvey and she was born in 1788 and died in 1861.  Jane was born in Laukirk. KINCARDON. They had 3 kids, Daniel (our G grandpa, plus Rodney  (1836-1909) and Ellen born 1840.

George was born in St. Nicholas Parrish, Aberdeen, Scotland in 1808, He married Jane on 26 August 1828  in Old Machar Parish, Aberdeen Scotland.

So that should keep you busy for a while!

I noticed many references to my family in the posts responding to your request for information and I
d like all of you to know that we Will descendants are alive and well in Canada.  I am the daughter of William Lawrene Will born 1935 to Rose Bateman and William Will (Jr).  you can see the extensive work I have done on our Will family in my file.  I've been trying to upload the whole works to GEDCOM and I expect to have it there Any time. 

I'd love to hear from anyone in our family. My home email is (*)

I know there are a million typos in this message. My keys are sticking and right now it's 1:22a.m. and I'm too tired to go back and look for them all plus the keys will still stick....haha, so live with it!

I'll now try to upload some pictures OK! if they don'tshow up you can see them by trying to find my family Tree. Google this, "Will(s) Terri Family Tree". If you can't find it please let me know.  I'd love to help everyone.

Email me for photos OR find my Family tree.  Hope all goes well!

Going to bed now,

Terri Will


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Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I haveuestions
Post by: spellboundone on Monday 07 April 14 07:35 BST (UK)
Even though you posted this 3 yrs ago I didn't see any answers to your question(s) so I'm answering anyway... because I know this Wm Will stuff! 
Ok, Wm Will who was born in 1875 was born in Montreal. He married Eva Dear.
William's parents were Daniel Will and his 2nd wife Rodney Elder. They married in St. Nicholas Parrish, Aberdeenshire in 1861 following Daniel's first wife's death. His first wife's name was Margaret Wyness and the'd only been married since 1851. Daniel was in the Aberdeen Seaforths 78th Regiment foot soldier. He had to live in the barracks. When Margaret died Daniel's had two children to raise. The children born to Daniel and Margaret were a son named Alexander (b. About 1853) and a daughter named Margaret (b, 1853).  So Alexander is probably the older brother your Dad spoke of who was born in Scotland.  OR your Dad could have been referring to his children with Rodney Ellen ? Daniel (1864). I bet your father's name was James? (1867-1929)?

I hope its not too confusing.
Title: Re: Grandfather, William Wills, Aberdeen Scotland, is all I have.
Post by: sarah on Monday 07 April 14 12:49 BST (UK)
Hi Spellboundone,

I am sorry to say that weedickitygurl emails are no longer working and from what I can see, they have turned off being notified of all new replies. :'(

Very sad that we could not connect you two.

Regards

Sarah