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Title: looking for cyril
Post by: joscar on Wednesday 08 June 11 16:42 BST (UK)
Hi can anyone help me find Cyril Spencer who we think was born in the Rotherham area in 1922?
He died in 1974 aged 74 in rotherham area .He was married to Faith Davis in 1948 but no father named ,I am at a loss an would be very grateful for any help  joscar
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: wilcoxon on Wednesday 08 June 11 16:56 BST (UK)
He died in 1974 aged 74 in rotherham area, if that is correct then he would have been born c 1900.
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 08 June 11 17:15 BST (UK)
Hi Wilcoxon

I think joscar has made a typo - there's a death for Cyril Spencer, June 1994, Rotherham which gives a date of birth of 6th October 1922.

gnu
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 08 June 11 17:23 BST (UK)
Who were the witnesses to his marriage?

The nearest birth with a mothers maiden name of Spencer (ie possibly illegitimate) is
December qtr 1919 Cyril  Spencer (mothers maiden name Spencer)  Skipton  9a 57  :-\

Rosie
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 08 June 11 17:29 BST (UK)
We don't really know if he was even born in Yorkshire - all we know is that the death cert says that he was born 6th October 1922. There don't seem to be any likely candidates - he may have been adopted/changed his name or the informant got his birthday wrong  or.......................

What was his occupation on the marriage cert?



gnu
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 08 June 11 17:36 BST (UK)
IF the dob is correct, and IF he was born a Cyril SPencer, then the only possible birth reg for him is

Oct/Nov/Dec 1922
Loughborough  7a 230
Cyril S Spencer
mums maiden name Bowden
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 08 June 11 17:41 BST (UK)
Faith doesnt die till 1999 - so if she was the informant one would have thought the dob to be reliable

Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: wilcoxon on Wednesday 08 June 11 18:30 BST (UK)
 It be worth checking for an obituary.
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: joscar on Tuesday 14 June 11 14:36 BST (UK)
Hi all of you  thank you for the info you gave me Sorry I have not been in touch before. Cyril s father is not named on his marriage cert and I think his mother married a Lewis in 1925 but we are not sure as we dont know her first name. He was living in Rotherham when he married and once said he was born in Masboro Rotherham .Yes you were right I did make a slip up he did die in 1994 when he was married he was employed as a Hospital Porter. He was in the army but we cannot find him anywhere there either Please can you help  Joscar
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 14 June 11 14:40 BST (UK)
Harriet Spencer and a George W Lewis were married Sept quarter, 1925, Rotherham


gnu
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: mmm45 on Tuesday 14 June 11 20:46 BST (UK)
Joscar
If he was in the army then his records will still be with MOD Archives.
Its possible to request a copy free to next of kin with proof of death ie Death Cert but £30 for everone else.
It may take a few months.
The Search and Request Form is available on the Veterans agency website.
http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html

Ady :)
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: joscar on Thursday 16 June 11 19:48 BST (UK)
Thanks gnu I  hope this will turn out to be right marriage have sent for it  Although it does  not help with Cyrils birth as we still cannot find it   joscar
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: joscar on Monday 20 June 11 14:11 BST (UK)
Hi gnu thanks for the info  I have sent for the certificate It does not really help with his birth I still cannot find it  Joscar
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: Gadget on Monday 20 June 11 14:41 BST (UK)
Hi Joscar

i've searched some more but can't find anything that matches.  How old was he on his marriage cert?  It might be that his birthdate is wrong on the death cert  :-\

Have you considered the registration that Rosie found:


The nearest birth with a mothers maiden name of Spencer (ie possibly illegitimate) is
December qtr 1919 Cyril  Spencer (mothers maiden name Spencer)  Skipton  9a 57  :-\

Rosie



gnu
Title: Re: looking for cyril
Post by: joscar on Tuesday 21 June 11 12:02 BST (UK)
Hi gnu Cyril was 25 on his Marriage cert Which would have made him 26 in the October making His birth date right He was supposed to have been in the army but cannot find him there either.
thanks for your help its much appreciated  Joscar