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Title: Otty / Nurse
Post by: norfolkboy on Monday 06 June 11 15:35 BST (UK)
I have a marriage between Thomas Otty and Rose Nurse that took place in North Barsham,Norfolk on 16.05.1732.This is probably a dead end on my wifes tree but for the fact that the marriage took place in North Barsham.All the children of Thomas and Rose were baptised in Weybourne,and Thomas and Rose were both buried in Cley,so is this the correct marriage?
Does anyone have an answer to this
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 06 June 11 16:25 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Norfolkboy :)

Sorry I cant explain that but they may have been working in the area possibly.

There is a Rose NURSE Baptised 16 August 1703, St Peter and St Paul, Swaffam, Norfolk to THOS/ROSE
+ a THOS 1705 to them also;
This Thos may go on to Baptise Children in Weybourne also, including a Rose 1729.

The Marriage of Rose/Thomas is also on FreeREG with Thomas down as OTLEY

Not sure if you have checked FreeREG but there are Burials of Otty Children eg Joanna 1737/Eleanor 1732, and lots of other records also.

Hopefully someone has other info for you.
Trish :)
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: Marmalady on Monday 06 June 11 16:28 BST (UK)
how far apart are these places?

have you seen the actual parish register entries or just the on-line transcriptions?- sometimes the actual entries will give extra info or hints

Have a look in the parish they were married in for possible baptisms of the couple -- maybe they moved to a new village soon after they married
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: norfolkboy on Monday 06 June 11 17:03 BST (UK)
Thomas Otty was baptised in Bodham August 1689 but i do not have the baptism for Rose. Nurse is a Weybourne / Kelling name,and the fact that all 10 of their children were baptised in Weybourne Church convinces me that she came from the village.Both Thomas and Rose were buried in Cley,4 miles from Weybourne,and the parish register states that Thomas was a customs officer,so i assume that this is where he was stationed, what puzzles me is that if this is the correct marriage why travel 16 miles from Weybourne to get married in 1732 ? or is this possibly a different marriage and a coincidence.
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: Marmalady on Monday 06 June 11 17:09 BST (UK)
16 miles isnt too far for one or other of them to have been living & working there before the marriage

i would certainly consider the marriage you have found a possibility
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: francesjean on Saturday 07 June 14 18:30 BST (UK)
Thomas and Rose are part of my family - I have information on them
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: mancmum on Wednesday 27 January 16 18:22 GMT (UK)
Hope that people here get automatic updates on their posts.  I have a transcript of the will of Johanna Nurse mother of Rose Nurse/0tty which is fascinating but which I cannot upload. Its from the church records held in the Norwich Records Office.   Contact me if you would like a copy.    I am interested in any information taking this line back earlier than Johanna Nurse.
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: IgorStrav on Wednesday 27 January 16 18:51 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: mancmum on Monday 06 June 16 11:04 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: mancmum on Monday 06 June 16 11:04 BST (UK)
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Title: Will of mother of Rose Otty (Nurse) with codicil cutting out her husband.
Post by: mancmum on Monday 06 June 16 11:20 BST (UK)
The last will and testament of Joanna Nurse of Wabourne in the county of Norfolk widow made this thirtieth day of January one thousand Seven Hundred and thirty eight.  First I desire my body to be decently buried in Wabourne (now Weybourne) Churchyard. 
Item.  I give to my Son James Nurse forty pounds to be paid within twelve calender months next after my demise. 
Item. I give to my son John Nurse thirty pounds to be paid within twelve calendar months next after my demise.
Item I give to my son Thomas Nurse thirtypounds to be paid within twelve calendar months next after my decease
Item I give to my Son Robert Nurse ten pounds to be paid within twelve calendar months next after my demise.
Item I give to my Daughter Rose Otty Forty pounds to be paid within twelve calendar months next after my demise.
 Item I give to my Son James Nurse the household goods hereafter named.  Three of my worst kittels the bed in the chamber with the appurtenances the great Table and the Table in the Dayry the two best pottage potts and also the one half of my pewter the Chest of Drawers the best brewing vessel the three chairs and one iron droppin pan.
Item all the rest of my household goods I give to my daughter Rose Otty, excepting one the Table which I give to my Son John Nurse and all the rest of my personal Estate I give to my Sons John Nurse and Thomas Nurse, they paying all my Debts and legacys and I make the said John and Thomas Executurs of this my last will and testament .  In witness   whereof I have set my hand and Seal the Day and year above written
Johanna Nurse her mark.
Signed Sealed published and declared by the said Joanna Nurse to be her Last will and Testament in the presence of us Thomas Youngs his mark William Sly Mary Lynn her mark.
A codicil to my Will whereas I have given to my Daughter Rose Otty by my Will forty pounds I now hereby make void the same legacy of forty pounds and I give and bequeath to my executors the sum of forty pounds upon trust that they put this sum onto interest and at the end of twelve months after my demise and pay to my said Daughter Rose interest thereof yearly  as they shall make the same during her  present couveture and in the case of her surviving her present husband then that they pay to her the sum of Forty Pounds.  But in the case of her Death during the said couverture  that then they my said executors pay such forty pounds to and amongst her Children Then living equally alike and my will and mind  is that the interest before directed to be paid be paid to my said daughter Rose herself without any claime  controwl or intermeddling of her husband and that in case of any loss of the forty pounds  or any part thereof  by putting the same out at intereste that then my executors shall not be answerable for such  loss except it be through their wilfull art or default and my will and mind also is that one executor shall not be answerable for the art or default of the other Executor.. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this second day of February 1738
Joanna Nurse her mark
Signed Sealed and declared by Johanna Nurse to be a codicil to her last will and Testament in the presence of William Sly, Thomas Riches  1739 April 17.
The within written John Nurse one of the within mentioned executors was sworn to the trust of this will and the codicil to the same annexe and  faithfully to   adster (administer)   Goods  before Revd John Fox Clark Master of Arts Surrogate present John Marker  …(illegible)  17th June 1739
The other Executor was then sworn in due form office faithfully to   administer these goods before the Revd Mc(hael?)
Peirce Doore Surrogate
Examined by  illegible.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fordingtondorset/Files/Glossary.html
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 06 June 16 14:16 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat mancmum,

I did notice a Submitted Tree in Familysearch.Org with this info;;

THOMAS Nurse 1670-1729
JOANNA unknown 1675-1738

Children;
JAMES 1695- died 6 May 1780  Kelling
JOHN 1696
THOMAS 1697- died 17 Jan 1789
ROBERT 1698
ROSE 1700

BURIALS;
All Saints, Weybourne
JOHANNA Nurse, 11 Mar 1738/39, an aged Woman
JOHN Nurse, 29 April 1757, age 65 (birth c 1692)
THOMAS Nurse, 20 Jan 1789, no age given
(FreeREG)

Other info, Submitted;

Thomas NURSE

Born: Cir 1660, Weybourne, Norfolk
Marriage: Johanna GRIFFIN on 14 Jun 1696 in Weybourne, Norfolk
Died: 1729, Weybourne, Norfolk aged 69
• Probate, 23 Dec 1729, Weybourne, Norfolk. ***

Thomas married Johanna GRIFFIN on 14 Jun 1696 in Weybourne, Norfolk. (Johanna GRIFFIN was born circa 1675 in Weybourne, Norfolk, died in Mar 1737/38 in Weybourne, Norfolk and was buried on 11 Mar 1737/38 in All Saints' Church, Weybourne, Norfolk.)

There are detailed links to the Children on there Birth/Marriage/Children/Burials/Wills etc

Source http://donaldfamily.co.uk/16/5564.htm

Some of the info on that Site can be checked on FreeREG


Trish :)
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 06 June 16 14:18 BST (UK)
Aaah, that Marriage quoted was in Glous;

Marriage
14 June 1696
Westbury-On-Trym, Gloucester, England
Thomas NURSE to Joane GRIFFIN
(Familysearch.Org)
Title: Re: Otty / Nurse
Post by: kevinhiscock on Monday 21 January 19 21:20 GMT (UK)
Rose Nurse and Thomas Otty are my ancestors via their son Thomas (1743-1827). Would be interested to hear from anyone researching this family.