RootsChat.Com
Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Kate B on Sunday 05 June 11 16:12 BST (UK)
-
I’ve just used credits on SP Catholic Burials and Death register and I found my G/Granma (Catherine Kelly) is buried in Lair 134, Section 15, Division W (cost £1.16s!). She died in Feb 1920.
Is there any way I can find out who else is buried with her? Its unlikely that there is a headstone, as my rellies were all too poor to buy one!
I’ve looked for her husband (John Kelly died May 1910) on the same register but no luck.
-
From another thread
Seamus, K44,
The cemetery is still operated by the Catholic Church at Clyde Street in Glasgow. Although I'm not sure if they will keep a lair plan there, I would imagine they could give you the contact number for the Cemetery's head groundsman.
Gerry
Archdiocese of Glasgow
196 Clyde Street,
Glasgow,
G1 4JY
mailto:info@rcag.org.uk
-
As sancti has posted the cemetery is operated by the Catholic Church,
There is also a copy of burial records for here at The Mitchel Library in Glasgow.
However I would advise you contact the archivist at The Scottish Catholic Archives in Edinburgh. Email them at - archivists[at]scottishcatholicarchives.org.uk(replace [at] with @)
I know from my own research and others that they are very helpful.
I will pop down to St Peter's through the week and see if the lair has a headstone for you.
Good Luck.
Gerry
-
Thanks for your offer, Gerry, much appreciated - although I doubt very much that a headstone would have been there in the first place. Like I said, my rellies were awfy poor!
I'll send an email straight away. Thanks again
-
Hi Gerry
My Gr Grandfather Robert Kelt is also buried in section 15, Lair # 2030 Could you please see if there is a headstone for him. I was over there in May on vacation and went to my grandmothers headstone in section 17 on the way back a very heavy hail storm came down so my search was over. I never made it back there to the graveyard during my trip.
Thanks Ang.
-
I have also found rellies at St.Peter's.A Charles McInally,married Elizabeth Wedlock. Charles was apparently buried in a common grave,Jan? 1929.I don't know what this number represents:17585,but these others are explicit,Lair 1635,Section 18 Division W.Like others,I expect there is no headstone,but if anyone is looking...Happy New Year to you all,and thank you for all the help I have received this year. :-*
-
Email the Scottish Catholic Archives in Edinburgh with the lair number, see what they come up with.
archivists@scottishcatholicarchives.org.uk
-
I too have relatives at St. Peter's Cemetery. I hope some day to visit. Their names are Patrick Sweeney DOD 26 May 1892 & his wife Catherine McCulloch DOD 20 May 1895. The lot number I believe is 685-9-E. Many thanks for a photo or any more info.
-
The cemetery is still operated by the Catholic Church at Clyde Street in Glasgow. Although I'm not sure if they will keep a lair plan there, I would imagine they could give you the contact number for the Cemetery's head groundsman.
Archdiocese of Glasgow
196 Clyde Street,
Glasgow,
G1 4JY
mailto:info@rcag.org.uk
This previous quote is very relative I have just placed a headstone where there was none on my Grt grandparents and my paternal grandfathers last resting place in St Peters Cemetery the Archdiocese contact was very helpful and the grave yard is well laid out and easy to walk round though my grand father and grt grandfather died before the lair was purchased and lie in common ground I have added them to the headstone along with my grt grandmother and her sons and a grand son who are in the grave I have also added my fathers name and my recently passed aunty who are their grand children to the memorial stone it is very emotive feeling but feels rewarding to be able to do this as my father and his sister never knew any of them it just feels right and I hope the others who are looking find the same sense of remembrance that I felt.
-
Thank you for the speedy reply. I'll contact them right away. I'll let you know if they reply.
-
Within 24 hours the Archives responded along with a photo of the lot. Thank you for supplying the contact info!
-
Does anyone know where I can find a layout map of the cemetery. My grandmother, Hannah McClure is buried in Lair 764, Section 17. I believe my uncle John McClure ,and aunt, Annie McClure are also buried here, but, can find no trace of either. It was many years ago ,as a teenager when was last there. Intend to go soon, so, that map would be invaluable
-
Does anyone know where I can find a layout map of the cemetery. My grandmother, Hannah McClure is buried in Lair 764, Section 17. I believe my uncle John McClure ,and aunt, Annie McClure are also buried here, but, can find no trace of either. It was many years ago ,as a teenager when was last there. Intend to go soon, so, that map would be invaluable
You wont need a map as section's are well posted and easy to see the only difficulty you have is finding the lair but if you start with a war grave in your section or if lucky any other with a number at the base of the headstone and work out your direction you should find your Lair if like me you find there is no headstone then a wee bit of maths and you will work it out, there is most times workers near by to assist, Section 17 is in the older St Peters Dalbeth so enter by the 2nd entrance both entrances are very close (if you are arriving by car) and you should be on the lower road when you get to the maintenance huts or office then bear right and follow the road round a s shape and section 16 and 17 are starting there hope this is of help and here is map just to verify.
-
FMFRANKO I was at the St Peters Dalbeth cemetery today and took a look for your granny's grave and if your Section and Lair numbers are correct then it looks as though there is no headstone and you will need help in getting the correct location to be sure from the groundsman as there is quite a gap from one numbered section 17:721 and 17:783 I took a couple of pictures for you and paint shopped markers on one to show but please dont just take my word for it still visit and make sure that you have the correct Lair numbers good luck. H
-
I'm planning a trip to Glasgow, my Birth place, over the New Year period and I would like to visit my Grandparents' grave in Dalbeth Cemetery. As I Haven't been there in such a very long time I can only vaguely remember a rough area where the gravesite is. Is there any assistance I could have in establishing what the plot number is, please?
-
There was a post on here 18 November about this cemetery and some one put a map on ..If you go on to Forum at the top of the board and scroll down to Scotland click on Lanarkshire and you should be able to find it ..Sorry I don't know how to copy and paste :D
Rosie
-
Thank you Rosie.
-
Your welcome hopefully someone will be able to advise you
Rosie
-
There was a post on here 18 November about this cemetery and some one put a map on ..If you go on to Forum at the top of the board and scroll down to Scotland click on Lanarkshire and you should be able to find it ..Sorry I don't know how to copy and paste :D
Rosie
See.........Threads merged.
Stan
-
Thank you for the map, very useful.
-
Can anyone give me some advice on who to speak to to find out what the plot number is regarding my Grandparents grave please. Thanks
-
This might help:
https://www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk/ExploreRecords/Pages/Burial-Lair-and-Cremation-Registers.aspx
Have you looked to see if the grave has been registered on one of the big worldwide sites, such as findagrave.com, or billiongraves.com
-
Check out this link https://billiongraves.com/cemetery/Saint-Peter-Cemetery-Dalbeth/250004
Happy Hunting
-
Thank you Annie, very helpful. I will have a look through those sites. Thanks again.
-
Thank you Lud
-
Hi all,
when I first put the map up I also included a note with directions on how to locate a lair if you had the number, but it seems to have become separated from the map. So here it is again ....
As garngad rightly says, if you can locate a nearby War Grave, and it's number, then the direction the row is numbered it's quite easy to get close to the lair you're looking for. Another method I use, if you find a stone which is numbered, as in photo above, I work on the theory it's 'one pace' between lairs. So start at say 721, count 43 paces and you should be 'very' close to 764.
If all else fails, as already stated, the groundsmen are normally around during the week and are extremely helpful.
good luck
Davie
-
There was a post on here 18 November about this cemetery and some one put a map on ..If you go on to Forum at the top of the board and scroll down to Scotland click on Lanarkshire and you should be able to find it ..Sorry I don't know how to copy and paste :D
Rosie
See.........Threads merged.
Stan
Thanks Stan ;)
-
I sent an email to the Scottish Catholic Archives and within two hours I had a response from Sharon at the Archdiocese of Glasgow with the section and lair number.
Many thanks to everyone who helped me find what I was looking for.
-
As sancti has posted the cemetery is operated by the Catholic Church,
There is also a copy of burial records for here at The Mitchel Library in Glasgow.
However I would advise you contact the archivist at The Scottish Catholic Archives in Edinburgh. Email them at - archivists[at]scottishcatholicarchives.org.uk(replace [at] with @)
I know from my own research and others that they are very helpful.
I will pop down to St Peter's through the week and see if the lair has a headstone for you.
Good Luck.
Gerry
Hi Gerry I hope you can help me.
I have a lair number and have been to section 13 where the lair is my can’t find it.
Is there a plan anywhere that I can look at with lair numbers on it
Karen
-
I don’t suppose anyone has come across Patrick and Mary Cosgrove (lair 671, section 15, division W).
They’re my 3x great grandparents. I’d love to come and pay my respects to them.
-
Sorry! Posted on wrong thread ::)
Monica
-
Hi,
I contacted someone at rcag and they provided info I needed.
The local council may also be able to offer this