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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: dmtmdmtm on Wednesday 05 August 09 18:31 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find the link between these families. My great grandfather William Arthur Harmer married Caroline Chaston in 1905. I can find no trace of her in the census' before her marriage. William was killed, at sea I think, soon after in 1907/08 and Caroline went on to remarry but I do not know to whom. I know that there is some kind of strong link between the Harmer and Cable family as my grandfather used to regularly visit a Norman Cable in Aldeburgh and often referred to a James Cable as being close family. I have discovered that approx. 1880 an Emma Chaston married a Thomas Cable so I am wondering if the link is via the Chaston Family. Can anyone help with more info?
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Do you have the marriage cert? Hopefully this will show Carolines father and his occupation. Also what was Carolines age and the witnesses may yield useful clues.
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Yes I have the marriage certificate now but no clues really. Caroline's father is not given -- just a line drawn in the box. according to the certificate she was 21 years old and her address was 49 Mariner Street. One of the witnesses was an Elizabeth Barnard -- I think there is a connection between the Barnard and the Cable family but not sure exactly what yet. The other witness was a George Tasker who I think was the parish clerk so I don't think that will help. Not sure where to go now but hoping to stumble across a breakthrough soon !!!
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I cannot find Caroline in 1891 or 1901 either.
Think your only option is to get her birth certificate - Caroline Chaston's birth is registered June quarter of 1884 at Plomesgate district.
Annette
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I've seen Cable as Keable (and that as other variations like Keeble/Keble/Kable) so it might be worth bearing that in mind when you are searching.
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Know about Cable and Chastons. My aunt. Ethel Chaston, visited Norman Cable a lot. He left her his cottage in Aldeburg when he died. One of the Cables was married to a Chaston, then he went on to marry another Chaston. He had at leat 9 children from both. Have info in my family tree.
Regards Colin Chaston
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I am Colin Chaston. My aunt Ethel chaston used to stay with Norman Cable in Aldeburgh, and he used to vist her in Haringey and Enfield. I have a family tree with the link to the Cable's (One Cable married two Chaston sisters)
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My grandmother, Elizabeth Barnard, nee Harmer, was the witness at the marriage of William Harmer and Caroline Chaston mentioned in a post in 2009. I would like the writer of that post to communicate with me if possible, as cannot respond to post as locked.
Moderator comment: topic unlocked and merged
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Moderator comment: this post was "orphaned" elsewhere - now merged with relevant thread.
Hi Theresa,
Re locked post concerning Chaston/Harmer/Cable
Elizabeth Barnard, witness of marriage of William Harmer and Caroline Chaston, was my grandmother and her maiden name Harmer, so believe that William was her brother?
Elizabeth left her husband and lived with my grandfather, Thomas William Cable, born 1887 in Aldeburgh, son of Thomas Cable and his wife, Emma, nee Chaston.
Billy Harmer and his wife used to holiday/weekend in Aldeburgh and bring Norman Cable, brother of my grandfather to visit. Colin Chaston, who is also in the thread and whose Aunt was Ethel Chaston, had relatives Fred and Ktty Chaston, who also used to visit Aldeburgh and bring Uncle Norman to visit us.
I was of the understanding that Billy Harmer, was a double first cousin of my fathers, i.e. brother and sister married another brother and sister, but am unsure how Caroline Chaston fits with the Cables.
Regards,
Sue
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Hi Sue!
Thanks for all that info -- it has really helped. My Mum has often talked of Aldeburgh and visiting various members of the Cable family when she was younger but she can't remember or never knew what the connection was. Went to Aldeburgh myself on Saturday just to have a look. Thanks again.
Theresa
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Hi Theresa,
I was in Aldeburgh late on Saturday too, after meeting with my sister and family at the farm shop at the junction of the Aldeburgh road and the A12!
I have just e-mailed a man, who does the Chaston family tree in the one name study group, to see if he knows anything about a Caroline Chaston. My grandmother's mother died when she was 7 years old, so perhaps William Harmer was a sort of cousin/brother, as can't find him as a brother on the 1881 census. Do you know who his parents were?
I live in Lowestoft and remember your granddad as someone who drove London buses to Heathrow airport, which seemed quite glamourous to me.
Take care,
Sue
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Hi Theresa,
On 1891 census Elizabeth Harmer, is there as Lizzie, and guess what, she has a brother called William aged 6 years old.
This must be William Arthur. If so, his father was Reuben Harmer, then a widower, and his mother was Sarah Ayers. Reuben was born in Oulton, in 1848 and married Sarah Ayers on December 24th 1870. She was born in 1850 and buried in Lowestoft on December 7th, 1887, when William would have been around 3 years old.
Reuben's father was William Harmer, born Blundeston, Suffolk, just north of Lowestoft, in 1821 to Mary, no father registered. His mother was Mary Ann Bemment or Beaumont of Barnaby, (Barnby) but us locals say Barnaby, which is between Beccles and Lowestoft in 1823.
Sarah's parents were William Ayers born 1824, who was a fisherman and lifeboatman and Elizabeth Cluff, who married on December 25th 1846.
No news on Caroline Chaston, but wonder if she is the daughter of Elizabeth Chaston, born Snape 1864, who was the mtoher of Norma Cable?
Regards,
Sue
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Hi, not sure if anybody can help me, i had a few names to search and that has lead me here.
I found a family tree of mine I think that Elizabeth was the sister of my great, great great granddad Henry (Harry) Chaston who married Eliza Everett.
If anybody has any information on a John Chaston b. 1791/2 it would be much appreciated.
Or Edward Chaston b.1816
Frederick John Chaston b 1881
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Family Search has a list of John Chaston born 1792. Just place the following in your search engine.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ajohn~%20%2Bsurname%3Achaston~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1792-1798~