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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: alderjones on Thursday 02 June 11 16:49 BST (UK)
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Where was Flax Moss House and when was it demolished?
Also I read that when William Turner the mill owner died his mills closed.
I know he had no sons but surely one of his daughters and her husband could have kept the
business going?
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Hi,
Flaxmoss house was off Helmshore Road. It is marked on the following map:
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environment/oldmap/towns/HELMSHORE.GIF
Click to enlarge and then navigate to the far right hand side and roughly in the centre. You should see Flaxmoss and then just below Flaxmoss House.
Regards,
Mo
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Are you related to the turners? If you are there are many local history books written about that family.
As for when was it demolished - it wasn't - http://media1.fineandcountry.com/v3/clients/181/properties/50002044/MED_50002044_50002133.pdf
Ultimately you have to remember he had 11 daughters and no sons. Which one of the 11 potential son-in-laws ought to have been given charge of his estate? I think it was all just sold off and divided up.
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It was stipulated in Turners will that should he leave no male issue all his mills and associated property should be sold off.
On 9th September 1852 at the Turners Arms in Helmshore all of his numerous properties and mills were auctioned.
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Thanks for info so far.
From somewhere I'd got Turner dying 23 March 1857 and being first burial at new Musbury church
which obviously doesn't tally with the 1852 on lancsbmd and the sale info.
One of my ancestors was a gardener there as well as at several other properties in Lancs in his lifetime ending at The Laund in Baxenden.
There is a tale in the Helmshore Historian Summer 1961 based on Haslingden Observer July 16 1927
about Turner trusting one of his gardeners to take a watch for repair and then having the employee
attacked to see if he would protect the goods. Would obviously like this to be my ancestor but have read both these articles and no name given.
Mike
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Hi
I was interested to read this thread about Flaxmoss house and thanks to link I have identified where Flaxmoss is!
I have just found a batch of christenings regarding my ancestors and James Ashworth 1818 lived in Flaxmoss. Some of his siblings - Peggy 1825, Alice 1828, Richard 1830 and Ann 1833 list Holme as their address but I have not yet located this. Does anyone know it?
William b 1823 is my direct ancestor and his parents are RICHARD & MARY.
The Baptism records are listed as St James, Haslingden.
I am working pre-census here and there are so MANY Ashworths - it's hard to unpack them all!!
Thanks, Jill
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Hi Jill
The Holme was located between Haslingden and Townsendfold and was basically only a couple of miles as the crow flies from Flaxmoss. If you go on to Google Maps and type in Townsendfold it will show you the location of the area and then move slightly north and west and you will find Flaxmoss.
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This is a belated addition,but some information may be found on the www.helmshore.com website. :D
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Thanks for the info - have visited it and got the Turner info
Mike
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Hi,
I've been looking again at my Flaxmoss ancestors so I thought you would all be interested to see that Flasmoss House is currently for sale - look at rightmove or just Google the name and it will come up - it mentions that it belonged to the Turner family so is probably the one!
BW
Jill
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Just had a look Jill - it's gorgeous!!! Now if I could just win the Lottery this weekend ;D
best wishes
Maria
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Hi,
I know - go and buy that ticket now!! I'd be tempted to go and have a look through it especially if it was in your family! It's massive isn't it - what a shame ancestors can't just make a claim!!!
Best wishes,
Jill
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Thanks for the info. Have just been looking at the photos,layout etc.
Can't imagine my ancestor going inside very often!
Mike
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Hi
Saw your old messages when I was looking for information on Alresford orphanage 1861.Iam reserching the Feltons- willam was the name above your Rebecca. Did you ever find out any more info on this place? Williams mother was widdowed and visiting in Hampstead in 1861 ??? she might have been a friend of Charlotte Collyer the nurse in charge as she became her lodger by 1871. I also found photo's of an orphanage in Old Alresford called Southdowns in 1924/1930.
Regards Jillian.
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My great-great grandmother Elizabeth Hepple Peacock moved from West Burton in Yorkshire to be Seamstress to the Turner family at Flaxmoss. Our family history only refers to 6 daughters of Mr Turner and reference to a peel of six bells at Musbury Church, each named after a daughter.
Elizabeth Hepple Peacocks grand daughter eventually married into the COWPE family in Helmshore
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Hi,
Wonder if anyone can help. I,m just looking at a Birth Certificate of a relative Abraham Haworth born 13 June 1886. the address is given as Flaxmoss House Haslingden. The family later moved to Glebe terrace in Burnley so doubt if they owned Flaxmoss. Anyone got information which might help
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Hi Claret. Were Abraham's parents Edmund & Ann? 1891 census 7 Hudson St. in Burnley Reg. district.
Edmund Haworth 35, living on own means.
Marriage 1880 St Mary, Whalley;
Edmund Haworth, gentleman, Whalley
Ann Pilling, spinster, Goodshaw
Groom's father Hargreaves Haworth, farmer
Bride's father John Pilling, boot & shoe maker
Was Edmund or Ann a relative of the family at Flax Moss? Ann may have been visiting when baby was born.
Why don't you post your enquiry on a new thread on the Lancashire board, then it might attract more attention . I think it's in danger of being overlooked here. I only noticed it because I'm new to Roots Chat and I've been browsing old threads on topics & places in which I have an interest.
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Hi Maiden Stone,
Many thanks for the reply
Yes his parents were Edmund Haworth and Ann Pilling. I understand that Ann was originally from Haslingden. But do not know of any connection with FlaxMoss House. Their three other sons were born at Burnley addresses so I was surprised when I saw this birth address as Haslingden
Can you direct to the Lancashire board you refer to as I,m new to this. I found this thread by googling FlaxMoss House.
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Also on Abrahams birth certificate Edmund Haworth his Father is described as a Farmer and his Residence is given as FlaxMoss House.
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Thanks for info so far.
From somewhere I'd got Turner dying 23 March 1857 and being first burial at new Musbury church
which obviously doesn't tally with the 1852 on lancsbmd and the sale info.
One of my ancestors was a gardener there as well as at several other properties in Lancs in his lifetime ending at The Laund in Baxenden.
There is a tale in the Helmshore Historian Summer 1961 based on Haslingden Observer July 16 1927
about Turner trusting one of his gardeners to take a watch for repair and then having the employee
attacked to see if he would protect the goods. Would obviously like this to be my ancestor but have read both these articles and no name given.
Mike
I was interested to read that your ancestor was a gardener for William Turner. At the moment myself and a friend are writing a book on the Turners and their influence on Helmshore. We are trying to trace the descendant of one of his gardeners who came to an open day at the parish church a couple of years ago. He had a diary kept by his ancestor when he worked for Turner. Unfortunately, the lady on duty did not take the visitor's name. I wonder if it was you?
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will send you a personal message
Mike
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Thanks for the personal message. Sorry that I cannot reply to it as a new member on here. And thanks for explaining about the family document. Its funny how details get distorted when passed on second-hand.
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Reply #21 chronicler. You may be able to send a personal message now. If it doesn't work, post another comment on here to increase your post tally, something brief like "OK" will do.
Remember to come back on here when your book is finished.
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Thank you.
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Your personal message icon is now green for Go, chronicler. :)