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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: coopsgal on Thursday 02 June 11 03:05 BST (UK)
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trying to find past family history for archibald leslie cooper he was born in seymour tasmania 24-2-1899 his first wife was mavis mcintyre craig they had arthur leslie cooper and mona adele cooper birthdate unknown. His 2nd wife was lilliam may Eames they were married 13-9-1935 and they had a son gary richard tasman cooper .I know archibalds father was george cooper from tasmania but i cant find nothing on him except for his wife was louisa wilkins. I have spent 3 weeks tracing information only to find out it was wrong please please help me thanks sam
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hi coopsgal
come back into rootschat a bit later tonight.........presuming your in australia!.. and someone might be able to help you.
rotosis
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Hi Sam :)
Welcome to rootschat :)
I can't find a birth on the date you mention for Archibald Leslie COOPER, however this looks like his birth in 1896.
COOPER Archie Leslie
Father George Mother Louisa WILKINS
5 Feb 1896
At Glanmorgan Reg#940/1896
His parents' marriage
COOPERGeorge Alexander 24 years
WILKINS Louisa 20 years
7 Feb 1881
At Fingal Reg#25/1881
and his siblings
COOPER Charles born 5 Apr 1881 at Fingal Reg# 692/1881
COOPEREda Rosina born 9 Sep 1882 At Fingal Reg#1284/1881
COOPER George born 26 Sep 1886 at Glamorgan Reg#1695/1886
COOPER Hilmer born 8 Aug 1888 at Glamorgan Reg#1882/1888
COOPER Clara Maria born 11 Jul 1891 At Glamorgan Reg#1804/1891
COOPER William John born 23 Jun 1893 At Glamorgan Reg#1033/1893
According to his age at time of marriage, George was born c1857
There is this birth, but no way of knowing if it is you man.
COOPERGeorge
Father Joseph Mother Matilda KEMP
9 Jan 1856
At Sorell Reg#1472/1856
This is likely Louisa's birth
WILKINS Louisa
Father William Mother Hannah RUSSEL
4 Nov 1860
At Glamorgan Reg#1205/1860
his first wife was mavis mcintyre craig
This does not appear to be correct. The births of two children also have the father Arthur Leslie COOPER.
Marriage
COOPER Arthur Leslie
CRAIG Mavis McIntyre
2 Nov 1916
At Zeehan 1916 Reg#18434
On the 1919 Electoral Roll there is a Archibald Leslie COOPER and Mavis McIntyre COOPER living at Linda, Tasmania. His occupation is labourer.
Records are not available after 1930 in Tasmania.
Is this the death of your Mavis McIntyre CRAIG?
COOPERGiven Names: Mavis
Father Craig Wm Jno Mother Amelia DEBRO
At Prahran 36 years 1934 Reg#6458
Marriage in Victoria
COOPER Archibald Leslie
EAMES Lillian May
1935 Reg#10706
and Lilian's death
COOPER Lillian May
Father Eames Richd Henry Mother Lillian May THOMAS
At Preston 31 years 1945 Reg#6052
Lillian is buried at Preston Cemetery
http://www.prestoncemetery.org/old/search/
COOPER Lillian May
Section H #06184
28 Jun 1945 31 years.
Cheers
Cando
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Mavis's birth
Victoria
CRAIG Mavis Mcintyre
Father William John Mother Amelia DIBRO
At Broomfield 1898 Reg#1264
This looks to be an inquest into the death of
COOPER George born 26 Sep 1886 at Glamorgan Reg#1695/1886
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=Q&id=9093
Newspaper item
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0djs/
Death Notice for George COOPER husband of Louisa, aged 59 years. So now born c1848 not c1857 as stated on his marriage reg.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0djt/
COOPER George
No parents noted
5 Jun 1907 At Ellendale Reg#356
Cando
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Hi,
There appears to have been a few George Coopers in Tasmania but this is the earliest Directory reference I can see for your George.
Tasmanian Directory 1887 (Middleton & Maning)
GLAMORGAN DISTRICT
Cooper, George , Swansea.
Regards
Gerry
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Hello Sam and everyone who has helped Sam.
I have established that this is not her George Cooper.
COOPER George
Father Joseph Mother Matilda KEMP
9 Jan 1856
At Sorell Reg#1472/1856
This George Cooper died 25/6/1885.He is buried at the Henry Street Cemetery Sorell in Tasmania.On his headstone it states that he was the son of Joseph and Matilda Cooper.( I have a photo of the headstone)
As this George died in 1885 he therefore cannot be the father of Archibald (Archie) Leslie Cooper born in 1896 and in my research I found that this George Cooper never married.
Matilda Cooper (nee Kemp) is my GGGG Aunt.
Unfortunatley the Tasmanian Family Colonial Links Data Base ::) has all the wrong information on Sam`s Cooper family and has led her on the wrong track with her George Cooper.Hopefully someone can help her find the right George Cooper.
Johngirl
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The 1907 death certificate for George COOPER as posted by Cando should give a place of birth for George if the informant knew. As Louisa was still alive, hopefully she was the informant and provided the correct information.
Debra :)
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thanks everyone for all your help. Your right johngirl I did think that joseph and mailda were my george's family but then i was in contact with one of the family members who sent me a photo of his head stone and realised it was impossible for him to be my george. condo thankyou for the death notice information. All the information on mavis is right, I to found that the marriage information said Arthur Leslie Cooper but this is definetly wrong Arthur leslie was her son, I didnt know lillian was buried at preston thats great news, Gary cooper, lillian's son was only 8 when she died so he never really had any information on her, Gary is my husbands dad.
thanks again coopsgal
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Glad I covered my back with this one ;D ;) Also George appears to have been a little older than this anyway...well according to his death notice.
There is this birth, but no way of knowing if it is you man.
COOPERGeorge
Father Joseph Mother Matilda KEMP
9 Jan 1856
At Sorell Reg#1472/1856
I to found that the marriage information said Arthur Leslie Cooper but this is definetly wrong
coopsgal
The births of two children also have the father Arthur Leslie COOPER.
Cando
Perhaps the same person did the three transcriptions for the indexes. However I did mention that the electoral roll had Archibald Leslie COOPER at the same address as Mavis.
Just for the record, I didn't take the bdm info from the Tasmanian Family Colonial database.
I agree with Dundee....you need the 1907 death cert to progress with your research.
Cheers
Cando
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thanks cando I think the death certificate is the only way of getting any further :)coopsgal
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Hi Sam,
Sorry to come into this discussion so late. Archibald Cooper was my grandmother Clara's brother. You have already found his 2 wives. 1st wife Mavis died very young and is buried in Burwood cemetery Victoria with Arch's mother Louisa. Louisa nee Wilkins and Arch's father George Alexander were married in Cullenswood, Tas in 1881. After George died in Zeehan in 1920 Louisa moved to Vic. You may find a birth Registration for George, but after over 10 years of looking I haven't been able to track it down but everything points to the fact that he was the son of George Cooper and Bridget Scanlon both convicts and 1 of at least 8 children. His obit states that he was born in Bicheno abt 1856 There is a distinct lack of documentation at this point and everything that I've found is based on conjecture with a healthy understanding of the geography and the other facts surrounding the family. They had some small farm holdings in the Long Point area of Seymour before George jun. and Louisa moved to Zeehan after the death of their son George abt 1900. Louisa was the daughter of William Wilkins, as far as I know a free immigrant, and Hannah Russell. Hannah's father was also a convict Robert Russell from Lincolnshire. Don't really know what else to tell you at this point but am happy to see if I could answer any other questions surrounding this family.
>cbeasley>@> club>telco>.>com regards Chris
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:) thank you so much i started to think there was no hope of finding any information, you are right about louisa's family i had no problem in tracing her family back, but it was like hitting a brick wall when it came to george, my husband and the cooper family will be happy to here about this information. once again thanks very much
coopsgal