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Looking for any information on a James Seery a member of the Irish Citizen Army. He was one of the men in the ICA company commanded by Captain Sean Connolly who took over the Dublin City Hall on Easter Monday 1916.
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Hey wondering if you've found any information on this James Seery, come across him in some family research and wanna see if he's a relation
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Hi There Forever Ending
Can't say that I have solved this mystery but I can give you a little background. My father George Connolly was in City Hall on Easter Monday 1916 and with a group of five others they captured the guard room of Dublin Castle, in the group was James Seery. Subsequently my father married Kathleen Seery in 1917. However, I knew her brothers (my uncles) Dan, Walter, Christopher and Patrick. Never came across James and at this stage, none of the family can help me, I think James may have been my mother's uncle, but so far have not been able to verify. I know that after the surrender my father and James went on the run and hid out at the Seery house.
If you can contribute any more information on this mystery, I'd be grateful.
Shiraz
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Hey Shiraz,
I'm still looking into it as I have Sheery Decendents as well, Of which there is a James who would have been my great grandmother Esther Seery's brother.
The 1911 Census has the surname misspelled as Seary but in the original you can clearly see that it says Seery. He was 17 in 1911
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0mj8/
and I'm having trouble trying to figure out if it's the same guy though it might be.
Their fathers name was Jeremiah (Born C1876), who married a Winifred Fitzgerald, who had two other sons that I know of, Bartholomew and John. Bartholomew married an Elizabeth Ferguson. I haven't found out anything about John yet. Is it possible Kathleen was the daughter of John or Bartholomew?
There are a few seery families around dublin at the time and it's likely that they are related. There are a few other James Seery's in the census though
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To: Forever Ending
The 1911 census entry is interesting as Mary is listed as the Head of the Household and James is listed as a brother...must be her husband's brother. Do you know the name of Mary's husband?. My grand mother's maiden name was Mary Anne Brady and she married a Patrick Seery. The other names John, Bartholemew, Jeremiah don't ring a bell with anything I've traced so far.
Shiraz
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Hey Siraz,
I don't know about Mary's husbands name. There is a Mary Seery who was the daughter of Jeremiah and Winifred though then her son's name should different, Esther and James are her siblings. I have Esther's baptisimal information below. They were baptised if St. Nicolas of Myra on Francis St. in Dublin and there was a John Seery as well.
/1896-1899. 1949- Seery, Esther Mary- Jeremiah Seery, Anne Tierney (15 Coombe St) Sponsers: John Seery, Mary Seery- Dob: 24/03/1898 Bap:27/03/1898
2/1893-1896. 1116- Seery, John Joseph - Jeremiah Seery, Anne Tierney (15 Coombe St) Sponsers: Thomas Nolan, Anne Smyth Dob: 27/12/1894 Bap:31/12/1894
Jeremiah Seery, 6 there, is named after his grandfather and is Mary's Son. So if you don't know a Jeremiah then maybe it's not the same one. ( I know his birth info is at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBL6-FZK so next time I'm in town I can check the general register's office for the fathers name) Though there is also the chance he could have died young. I came across a reference of a Jeremiah marrying in the 30's though which might be him.
Jeremiah Seery
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1936
Registration district: Dublin South
Volume: 2
Page: 445
The 1901 census info for these Seery's (Again misspelled and with Jeremiah spelt wrong) is
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Coombe_Street/1344461/
It could be a seperate branch of the tree going back further though.
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To: Forever Ending
I think we are talking about a totally different branch of the family, probably related some where back in history. I'll keep looking if I find anything I'll let you know. As I live in South Africa, I'm sort of cut off when it comes to research.
Regards
Shiraz
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That James Seery was my grandfather.
He was Born in 1898 in Philidelphia, PA but after the death of his mother and his father (Thomas) suffered an accident on the railroad, James and his older sister Mary were sent back to Ireland to be raised by relatives (Crom in County Fermanagh) in 1905/6. All I know is that he fled to Scotland then eventually ending back the US, New York, in 1921.
he had three other siblings Thomas, Ann, and Kathleen all of whom were raised by relatives in New York.
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This looks like your James Seery with relatives in 1911 but Mary is shown as 2 years younger-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Crum/Derryhooley/523244
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Yes that's them. I've seen that before and mccaffrey were the in laws my great grandfather sent them to live with. Sorry don't know why I thought she was older. I believe she stayed in Ireland when my grandfather left for America via Scotland but ill have to check with my father on that.
James Seery died in Ireland in 1963. Buried in Milltown, Kerry.
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for reference purposes only. came across this death and remembered some one was researching seery's.
dorothea age 60 wife of thomas seery 13 cook st dublin aug 21 1857 appeared in The Irish American newspaper. they appear on irish genealogy as sponsors for a kenny baptism in 1837.roman catholic.
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Thanks Dathi.
Afraid this Seery family is not connected to the James Seery that I'm seeking.
Shiraz
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Looking for any information on a James Seery a member of the Irish Citizen Army. He was one of the men in the ICA company commanded by Captain Sean Connolly who took over the Dublin City Hall on Easter Monday 1916.
...did you find anymore about him.i think it MIT be my grandad
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Hello there, So far I've drawn a blank on James Seery, I'd be interested to hear anything about your grandfather so that we can compare notes. Shiraz
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Do you the he was born?,was he from dublin .i am new at this tracing.
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This was my grandfather!! James Seery of 10 Beresford Place (No 188 on the Membership Roll of the Irish Citizen Army) was in the North Wall Section of the ICA and is listed on the City Hall Garrison, Roll of Honour. He was born in 1894 and died on the 8th October 1974. He fought in Dublin Castle, Dublin (Guardroom, Upper Castle Yard); he evaded arrest or capture following his participation in the 1916 Easter Rising, had no further service and was awarded the 1916 Rising Medal for his services.
I hope this helps
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Hi There OceanOne and Welcome
Do you need help with your tree ?
Tara
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Hi Ocean One.
My father George Connolly was with James Seery in the ICA City Hall Garrison, under the command of my uncle Captain Sean Connolly. My father and your grandfather were part of the detachment of six men under the command of Tom Kain who captured the guard room at the upper Castle yard. They went on the run together after the surrender and my father hid out at a Seery house. Not sure if it was in your grandfather's home or somewhere else. My father later married Kathleen Seery...she was a daughter of Mary Anne Seery (nee Brady) who was related to Patrick Pearse's mother. I'm trying to find out what was your father's relationship to my Grandmother and also the Pearse connection. If you can throw any light on this situation I'd be grateful.
Regards Shiraz
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Hello Shiraz,
I would be happy to help; do you have an email you could let me have please?
Regards,
Ocean One
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Ocean One, you need to have three posts before you can send private messages off line. I see you only have two, so send another one and click on the personal message button on the panel and let me have your e-mail and I'll respond. Best regards Shiraz
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Hello Shiraz,
Will do.
Regards,
Ocean One
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Ocean One Look forward to hearing from you. Shiraz
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Hello Shiraz,
Just got your message I'm glad to say - I'll reply via email now.
Kind regards,
Ocean One
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Hi shiraz,
Do you know anything about the younger siblings of Kath Connolly (born Seery)? Especially Annie (Nano) Farrell (born Seery) 1901-1986 and her children? She married Patrick Farrell who died in 1960.
Thanks.
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Hi Ocean One.
My father George Connolly was with James Seery in the ICA City Hall Garrison, under the command of my uncle Captain Sean Connolly. My father and your grandfather were part of the detachment of six men under the command of Tom Kain who captured the guard room at the upper Castle yard. They went on the run together after the surrender and my father hid out at a Seery house. Not sure if it was in your grandfather's home or somewhere else. My father later married Kathleen Seery...she was a daughter of Mary Anne Seery (nee Brady) who was related to Patrick Pearse's mother. I'm trying to find out what was your father's relationship to my Grandmother and also the Pearse connection. If you can throw any light on this situation I'd be grateful.
Regards Shiraz
Could the "Seery House" you mention have been 12 Corporation Street where Daniel Seery was living (it looks like the house had some connection to Phil Shanahan according to the census)?
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Hi Red Tulip
Number 12 Corporation Street was originally the home of Phil Shanahan and was purchased by the Seery's. In the Seery family, Kathleen was the eldest,I'm not quite sure of the sequence but there were Daniel, Walter, Christopher,Patrick and the girls were Anne (Nano) Mary was married to ( Joe Ryan and they had three children),Dinah ,who was the youngest, she was married to Paddy Proctor, who was in the RAF during the war, they had three children, Maureen, Carmel and Patrick. You ask about Nano's children she had four children, Kathleen who married Peter Gaffney and went to live in America, next was Patrick (Patsy) who was a crane driver and married Agnes (?) I think they had three or four childrenn, next was Daniel (Danny) I think had 4 children the eldest being Damien who is an Independent County Councillor in Dublin. Finally Eamonn who was married and lived in Malahide, I think he may have had 2 children, but he died very young from a massive heart attack. Come back to me if you need any more information. Shiraz
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That's great Shiraz thank you, that's been really helpful. I think I may have got a bit confused between Mary Ryan and Annie Farrell, two of the sisters. Annie Farrell stayed at 12 Corporation Street and her children were born there I think. Can I send you a follow up message privately?
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Hi I am new to this rootschat and could be totally wrong. But my great grandmother was Kathleen Seery, 10 Beresford place, later 2 Beresford place. I am just doing some family tree reaearch as the 1916 commorations were this weekend. I think James was Kathleens brother, I must ask my grandmother ( Kathleens daughter)she has loads of information on this. As far as i know he was in hiding for a few days after the rising. There is a book called "our rising" which has Kathleens accounts of the lead up to 1916
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Hello and thanks for your post - sorry for the delay, I have been attending the 1916 Commemorations and haven't had a chance to reply until today.
James Seery did have a younger sister called Kathleen. Her father was called John and her mother Catherine - both are buried at Glasnevin Cemetery, and it is possible to obtain the records should you wish. You might also be interested in the 1911 Census which lists the family at that point as John (Head of Family), Catherine (Wife), Mary Josephine (Daughter), James Patrick (Son), Teresa (Daughter), Kathleen (Daughter) & Patrick (Son).
Thanks for the information about the book "Our Rising" and Kathleen's contribution - I will certainly be purchasing a copy.
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Just wondering if anyone connected to this post is connected to Daniel SEERY 1903-1982?
The latest military archive records included a relative Kathleen KEARNEY nee BOURKE and Daniel Seery gave her a reference.
It is not dated (presume c 1938-1941 based on other letters) but the address given is 31-60 38th St Astoria, New York
I found that Daniel Seery of this address naturalised in the USA on Nov 14 1940
He was born to Daniel SEERY & Mary Ann BRADY on Jan 17 1903 at 32 Montgomery Street
I would be interested to know if her name rang any bells
Also curious on the Patrick Pearse connection
Thank you
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Hi there My Luck
The Daniel Seery you asked about was my Uncle ( my mother's brother) and Mary Anne Seery was my grandmother. Dan and his brother Walter lived at 12 Corporation Street in Dublin's north inner city. Dan trained as an upholsterer and Walter trained as a farrier (blacksmith). Initially, they emigrated to Canada and about the time of the great depression they split up with Dan moving to the States and Walter stayed in Canada, living most of his life in Montreal. Dan married an English lady called Agnes O Rourke and Walter married a French Canadian woman called Corrine? They both had children some of whom still live in America and Canada.
Shiraz
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Thank you Shiraz
Daniel wrote a reference for Kathleen but like many women she wasn't awarded a pension. She also wrote a reference for him in his application for a pension; she also met and helped him when he returned to Ireland from Manchester.
The records are very interesting to go through if you haven't through them. :)
I was also trying to make a link between Padraig PEARSE and Daniel SEERY but to no avail
I had presumed it would be in the BRADY side
Padraig's mother was Margaret BRADY d/o Patrick BRADY & Brigid CARAGAN? other records show SAVAGE
LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1877/11150/8084067.pdf) to Civil Record
LINK (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633465#page/57/mode/1up) to church record which is difficult to read
Daniel's mother was Mary Ann BRADY d/o Walter BRADY & Kate BYRNE
LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1879/11067/8049109.pdf) to Civil Record
LINK (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633597#page/92/mode/1up) to Church record with parents' names
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Hi there My Luck
As mentioned, my grandmother Mary Anne Seery (nee Brady) was daughter of Walter Brady who in turn was related to Patrick Brady, who was Margaret's father...I haven't been able to discover if they were brothers or cousins. I do know that the family were originally from Nobber and were native speakers in past times.
So many pieces of the jigsaw always seem to be missing.
Shiraz
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Shiraz
I agree it is so difficult to piece some things together
I know from my own family that the word "cousin" was very loosely used!
I will look again at what I found and let you know if I find anything! :)
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Thanks My Luck for you offer.
I'd be grateful for any light you can throw on the subject. I recall that Nobber is in County Meath and maybe some information could be gleaned from local records in that area.
Shiraz
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Shiraz
From what I can see at present from trees, articles and records
Walter BRADY & Margaret O'CONNOR were the parents of at least eight children born in Co. Meath
There are baptism records for four of them between 1822 and 1833 in Curraha, Co. Meath
They were Catherine, Philip, Anne, Patrick, Laurence, Christopher, John and Margaret
I believe that Patrick was the husband of Brigid SAVAGE and therefore the grandfather of Padraig PEARSE
I believe that Philip was the husband of Eliza ?? (Possibly Nulty) and therefore the grandfather of Mary Anne SEERY nee BRADY
This would make Daniel and his siblings 2nd cousins once removed to Padraig PEARSE.
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Hi all,
Check out "The Home Life of Pádraig Pearse: as told by himself, his family and friends", 1934, Mercier Press, ISBN 0853425817 - edited by Mary Brigid Pearse.
The first few pages outline Pearse's genealogy back to his g-g-grandfather, Walter Brady... "...great-great-grandfather, Walter Brady of Nobber in the County Meath, a Cavanman by origin. He fought in '98, and one of his brothers was hanged by the Yeos; another lies buried in the Croppy's Grave at Tara..."
Walter Brady had a son, also named Walter Brady, who married Margaret O'Connor. They had a sons Philip (and on to Seery et al), and Padraig (and on to Pearse et al).
Cheers,
:)