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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: grianaig on Monday 30 May 11 18:32 BST (UK)

Title: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: grianaig on Monday 30 May 11 18:32 BST (UK)
Looking for info on my Girlfriends family. I have traced back to her G Grandmother Jane Ferguson.

Only real info on her is that she married James Drummond in Greenock on the 29th Dec 1896, and have her parents as John Ferguson & Mary Miller.

Would love to know if Jane had any siblings and where she came from, was she born in Greenock? and did her father John die on the 7/1/1883.

Any help would be appreciated.

Iain
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 May 11 18:51 BST (UK)
How old was she when she married in 1896? 
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: grianaig on Monday 30 May 11 18:53 BST (UK)
I not quite sure, as I don't have a debit card for Scotlandspeople can't buy credits to see the image.

All I know for sure is that her father John died before she married in 1896.

Have tried to look through inverclyde BMD but it does not give a lot of info on either Fergusons or Drummond.

Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 May 11 19:14 BST (UK)
There are a number of 1901 entries that could fit but without knowing their respective ages it's difficult to pick the right entry

Do you know if they had any children before 1901?
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 May 11 19:18 BST (UK)
I found this 1881 entry for 49 Nicholson St Greenock but no guarantees it's the right one  - children both b Greenock

John Ferguson 30 painter b Ireland
Mary   28 b Ireland
Elizabeth   4
Jane 9 Months
Greenock West ED 16 Page  29 Line 4

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Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: elaine447 on Monday 30 May 11 21:55 BST (UK)
Iain
Jane' marriage to James Drummond is on the Inverclyde BMD site
and it say's she is the daughter of John Ferguson with a note (see John)
which usually means that there is info about him on there too,
there are quite a few John Ferguson deaths on there if you know his occupation
it may be easier to identify which one he is
Elaine
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Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: weemary on Monday 30 May 11 21:58 BST (UK)
1891 cenus

John Ferguson   39
Mary Ferguson   37
Elizabeth Ferguson   14
Jane Ferguson   10
Mary Ferguson   8
Ann Ferguson   6
John Ferguson   3
Esther Ferguson   1

65 Nicolson Str

Source Citation: Parish: Greenock West; ED: 21; Page:  16; Line: 19; Roll: CSSCT1891_182; Year: 1891.


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Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: weemary on Monday 30 May 11 21:59 BST (UK)
Elaine/ Iain

1891 census has john listed as a house  painter

also a marriage for his other daughter Esther
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 May 11 22:09 BST (UK)
So - the John Ferguson I found on the 1881 census is the same as the one found on the 1891 census - that means he couldn't have died in 1883.  If the info re: his death is correct - it's not the right family

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and did her father John die on the 7/1/1883.

You really need to sort some credits out and check the 1896 marriage to establish John's occupation
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: elaine447 on Monday 30 May 11 22:13 BST (UK)
John Ferguson (painter) death is on there he did die 1883 address
49 Nicholson Street, has a note (see Jane)
say's he is father of Frederick so Jane had  at least one brother
Elaine
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 May 11 22:15 BST (UK)
1901 census has John Ferguson b Ireland 1855 occ painter living with wife Mary at 65 Nicolson St Renfrew

John Ferguson 47 painter b Ireland
Mary  46 b Ireland
Mary   18
Ann 16
Esther  11
Greenock West ED 20 Page  24 Line 23

1891 address for the above is also 65 Nicolson St - no Frederick
 
 
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: elaine447 on Monday 30 May 11 22:28 BST (UK)
1881 Census 49 Nicholoson street
John Ferguson born 1851 Ireland painter
Mary    "          born 1853 Ireland
Elizabeth          born 1877 Greenock
Jane                 born 1880 Greenock
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 May 11 22:29 BST (UK)
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John Ferguson (painter) death is on there he did die 1883 address
49 Nicholson Street, has a note (see Jane)
say's he is father of Frederick so Jane had  at least one brother

1881 for 35 Wellington St Greenock

Fred Ferguson 26 painter b England
Ann 25 b Greenock
Janet 2mths b Greenock
Greenock West ED 40 Page  29 Line 3

Cannot link him to a John in 1861/71 in England or Scotland
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 30 May 11 22:29 BST (UK)
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1881 Census 49 Nicholoson street
John Ferguson born 1851 Ireland painter
Mary    "          born 1853 Ireland
Elizabeth          born 1877 Greenock
Jane                 born 1880 Greenock

This info has already been posted - see  reply #4  above
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: elaine447 on Monday 30 May 11 22:46 BST (UK)
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1881 Census 49 Nicholoson street
John Ferguson born 1851 Ireland painter
Mary    "          born 1853 Ireland
Elizabeth          born 1877 Greenock
Jane                 born 1880 Greenock

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sorry Carole that will teach me to read things right
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You really need to sort some credits out and check the 1896 marriage to establish John's occupation
I agree with Carole
without the certs to back this up it is all guess work
Elaine
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: elaine447 on Monday 30 May 11 23:46 BST (UK)
sorry I was just thinking
I know that the address of 49 Nicholson street is on both
1881 census and the death notice on Inverclyde BMD
but on the census it gives a date of birth for John as 1851 would only make him
32-33 when he died
but on the inverclyde BMD site it gives his age at death 58 ?
so something is definately not right
Elaine
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: elaine447 on Tuesday 31 May 11 00:37 BST (UK)
1901 census
James Drummond born 1859 Greenock General Labourer
Jane    Drummond born 1858 Greenock
Sarah  Drummond born 1898 Greenock
and doing a general search on SP Jane and James marriage 1997 (December marriage) registered after new year

Family search
Jane Duncan Ferguson 1857 Greenock
Elizabeth Bain Ferguson 1860 Greenock
parents
John Ferguson and Mary Miller
Elaine
Added
Family search
Marriage for John Ferguson but Mary's name is Margaret Ann Miller 6 Aug
 1852
different family
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: elaine447 on Tuesday 31 May 11 01:30 BST (UK)
1861 Census Address 18 Hamilton Street Greenock
John Ferguson 1826 Glasgow Lanark Painter house and ship
Mary Ferguson 1825 Glasgow Lanark
Christina           1846 Partick              Mill worker
Mary                1851 Glasgow            scholar
Frederick          1855 England             scholar
Jane D              1858 Greenock
Elizabeth B        1860 Greenock
Title: Re: Ferguson Greenock
Post by: milltear on Sunday 30 December 12 20:52 GMT (UK)
Have found that Jane Duncan Ferguson was born 1857 in Greenock and her sister Elizabeth Bain Ferguson 1860 in Greenock. Their siblings were born in other areas, Frederick Ferguson was born around 1855 in England (unsure of location). Mary around 1851 Glasgow and Christina again unsure of date but born Lanarkshire.
Mary Ferguson married patrick McGinniss and had 2 children (of which I know), Frederick married Annie Darroch and had 2 children Janet(c1881) & Christina(c1883). Elizabeth Married Robert McNab and had at least 5 children. John McNab(1883), Charles McNab(1885), Henry McNab(c1887), Martha McNab(1888) & Frederick McNab(c1890).