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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: Plummiegirl on Sunday 29 May 11 14:00 BST (UK)
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Not too sure if this should even be on this board, but cannot see where else to post.
My cousin Sqn. Ldr. William Michael Vivian, was killed on a 'routine training flight' with 2 other Tornados off Flamborough Head, on Tues. 16 June 1998.
I have a copy from the BBC Website at the time and have found a report on a UFO (yes!!!) website about this crash.
I have tried contacting RAF Coningsby, but as I am not n.o.k., they will not offer any help. What I have been trying to get is a copy of his death certificate, I have looked at the death records on Ancestry etc., and their is nothing on there. Now I know that of the 2 pilots who were in the Tornado, only 1 body has ever been found, would this be a factor and that the death cert. was issued but not available to the public?
Any suggestons or advice would help. I am in touch with his brother, but as they were 'estranged' he only knew about the
death by chance when watching the telly at the time. So no help there really.
UPDATE:
Schooner: really did not need the Nick Pope site, do not think that that will help, have a very sceptical attitude to UFO's hence the exclamation marks.
Nanny Jan: Many thanks for the death ref - 'wonders why it is registered as a death abroad when it happened in the UK? Would never have considered looking there' Thanks again.
UPDATE 2: kyt - many thanks for that link - a very interesting report and explains a lot.
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Try
www.nickpope.net/
Regards
Schooner
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Hi,
Found this on GRO Deaths Abroad Indices (1995-2005)
William Michael Vivian M.O.D. (Air) 1998 Type F Page 41 Country: unknown
date of birth: 18 March 1965
Hope that helps.
Nanny Jan
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The official accident report for the crash:
http://www.ukserials.com/pdflosses/maas_19980615_ze732.pdf
The reference on the UFO site to the aircraft *disappearing* (the link to which I won't bother posting here) from radar is no surprise when the aircraft was in a steep dive. Afraid it's another case of adding 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5!!
K
EDIT: BTW as the crash occured outside the limit of British Territorial Waters, that may explain why he is registered as "abroad".
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Hi Plummiegirl
Don't even know if you use this chat forum anymore but I cam across your post whilst searching for information about Bill. He was my Godfather. So so sad.
What have you learnt?
Kind Regards
Chelsea
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Hi Chelsea & welcome to RootsChat
If you click on a poster's name (to the left of the post) you can see when he/she was last on line :)
Linda
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danuslave - I have pm'd Chelsea twice since her post sadly her inbox is full and my 2nd message was not accepted.
I come on this site daily and get notifications for my threads etc. so Chelsea need not worry about my not replying.. In fact I am very excited about contacting her.
Oh well its now just a case of waiting.
Cheers
Christine (Plummie)
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Hi Christine
I think it's more likely that the emails are bouncing because Chelsea has only made 1 post! You have to make 3 (or sometimes 2!) to be able to use the PM system.
She hasn't been on since her original post, so I think you're right about just a case of waiting. How frustrating for you :o ::)
Linda
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Yeah, I guessed as much.
But I did notice that she only joined the day she contacted me.
It is a shame as I am aslo in touch with her godfathers 2 siblings.
Me and my 2 cousins were a lot older than William (Billy). And I sadly never knew him.
Oh well I will just sit back and wait.
CHELSEA, CHELSEA where art thou? ;)
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I have found a notification in my email of replies to this thread only now by complete accident. The site will not allow me to reply direct to Plummiegirl and the notification went into my junk so I though noone had ever responded! How awful this many years later. I'm going to try and post 3 times so it let's me PM...
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Post again and then you can PM anyone - it's in the rules of RootsChat - post 3 times before being allowed to PM to people on here. Just put OK in after this post ;D
Welcome back :)
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Ok. Fingers crossed!!!