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Title: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: Ros3 on Saturday 28 May 11 04:59 BST (UK)
Hi,

A relative, Gertrude HENRY, wife of Hugh F. HENRY,  died in 1927 in "Glenada Newcastle" and is buried in Belfast City Cem.

I'd like to find her address in Newcastle prior to her death.

Please excuse me for my ignorance about Co Down. I live in Canada and have only Google maps, etc to find places. But I can't locate Glenada, Newcastle.


Is Glenada a village or suburb of Newcastle?
Which city directory would I use to lookup her address?

Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: kingskerswell on Saturday 28 May 11 07:40 BST (UK)
Hi,
   Not sure the address in 1927 but in the 1911 census Gertrude and Hugh and their four children were living at 21, Deramore Drive, Belfast. See
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Cromac/Deramore_Drive/159337/
Also see http://www.glenada.co.uk/ It may be the name of the house.

Regards
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 28 May 11 12:33 BST (UK)
The Belfast City Council online burial index lists the address as 'Glen-Ada' Newcastle which indicates it was probably the name of a house in Newcastle.
http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialrecords/search.asp
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: Ros3 on Saturday 28 May 11 21:05 BST (UK)
Hi,

Thank you for your replies.

Yes, Kingskerswell, in the 1911 census, that is the family I'm looking for: Hugh F. HENRY and  his wife Gertrude. After the children left home, Hugh and Gertrude moved to Newcastle.

Yes, Glen-Ada may be the name of a house as you suggested, Aghadowey. Any suggestions on how to find what the street address is? Or is a 1920s (specifically 1927) city directory the best way?

Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 28 May 11 21:17 BST (UK)
There was a Glenada House Inn in Newcastle in 1842 "a Y.W.C.A. in 1905"-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/PLACENAMES/G.htm
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: Ros3 on Saturday 28 May 11 21:28 BST (UK)
An interesting link, aghadowey!

While there I found reference to "Glenada Terrace" (a  few lines above 'Glenada House') and after googling it, I found this:
http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/L_ROY_03519.

And this:
Glenada Terrace/ King street
http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/locating-postboxes/?pc1=BT33

This is also a possibility, wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: Answer on Saturday 04 June 11 21:16 BST (UK)
Hi Ros3,

There is a building named 'Glenada' on the right hand side as you leave Newcastle for Kilkeel. At present it is a Conference and Holiday Centre. It appears to be building that has been extended in modern times to the right. The older part (on the left as viewed from the road) is built in granite and may have been the original 'Glenada'. I'm not sure who operates the premises. (Tried unsuccessfully to paste a Google streetview link)

Answer
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 04 June 11 21:36 BST (UK)
Due to copyright issues you aren't allowed to post images from Google Streetview here. However, you can post a link to the picture.
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: Answer on Saturday 04 June 11 21:43 BST (UK)
Thanks Aghadowey,

Posting the link to Glenada for Ros3 in the hope that it works - I tested it by putting it in Google search and it seemed to come up.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=54.201726,-5.89155&spn=0,0.002588&z=19&layer=c&cbll=54.201633,-5.891499&panoid=WidgU8f4uWGB1n_h9we9Pw&cbp=13,266.39,,0,0

Answer
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: Ros3 on Sunday 05 June 11 02:30 BST (UK)
Hi Answer,

Thanks for your interest in my query.
I found an old postcard of Glenada Terrace and it is just right of the streetview  on Promenade that you sent in the link.  They are  pale yellow coloured buildings.  They have a very distinctive roofline.  The roof and front are the same as the old postcard.

Now I just need to find Hugh and Gertrude HENRY's house number from a city directory in the 1920s.

Thanks again!


Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 05 June 11 07:33 BST (UK)
Hi,
   This looks like the same property that is shown in my second link in reply No.1. The current address is 29, South Promenade, Newcastle, Co. Down.

Regards
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 05 June 11 10:45 BST (UK)
It may be that there was no house number for the property until fairly recently (say 30 years ago or so) around the time road names were introduced in the countryside.
Title: Re: Glenada, Newcastle: 1927
Post by: Ros3 on Thursday 09 June 11 21:28 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your help!