RootsChat.Com

Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kerry => Topic started by: shanew147 on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:07 BST (UK)

Title: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:07 BST (UK)
following extract is from a Royal Marine record, and shows a place of birth... any ideas where it refers to ?

posting on behalf of fifer1947

thanks,


Shane
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: fifer1947 on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:15 BST (UK)
Thank you for that Shane.  ;D

I think the second word is Killarney (bad K) as the officer has written double "L" elsewhere with different sized letters.  Hopefully someone might recognise a place from the phonetic sound around the Killarney area. 

All suggestions gratefully received.   :)
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:20 BST (UK)
There are lots of place in Killarney Poor Law Union, Co. Kerry that start with Caher... but only one in Killarney civil parish is Cahernane.
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:22 BST (UK)
for what's worth, my reading of the townland name is Coherciowar - so maybe something that sounds like that ?

I assume that Killarney in this case would either mean the post-town or maybe the civil parish, or poor law union



Shane
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: annclare on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:29 BST (UK)
Shane
Agree with your reading but its a puzzle. if you play around with what might be a phonetic spelling of the place  the beginning is possibly Caher but nothing fits the ending. The only two that might come near seem to be Cahersavane and Cahersiveen/Caherciveen but I'm not convinced  either are possible.
annclare
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:33 BST (UK)
it does looks like Caherciveen if you squint - but that's over 60 km away from Killarney..


Shane
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: fifer1947 on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:36 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your input ...... boy it's a corker!  :-[
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: fifer1947 on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:40 BST (UK)
Maybe a clue would help?? 

His father (also John) was a ferryman and this John my gt grandfather was a 21 year (at least) man with the Royal Marines.  So I'm thinking near water loch or sea with a ferry??
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:45 BST (UK)
Killarney is not that close to the sea... about 30km to ether Kilorglan or Kenmare

I think I mentioned Tarbert as a possibility before, but that's 70km to the north of Killarney.

Killarney is beside the lakes - I'm sure there were boats - but would there have been ferries ?


Shane
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: fifer1947 on Wednesday 25 May 11 18:50 BST (UK)
I know Shane.  :-\

I fell in love with Killarney when I visited in the 60's, little did I think I had a connection.  :P
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: fifer1947 on Wednesday 25 May 11 23:00 BST (UK)
Wondering if this writing is so very bad I'm seeing what isn't there!  ::)

Could this be something like CoherciRvar?  That is an R and V instead of a W.
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: Kerryman on Wednesday 07 September 11 19:14 BST (UK)
I would go along with Killarney for the second word. I've seen  'via Killarney' on addresses in Sneem, which is almost as far as Cahirciveen from Killarney. Cahirciveen had ferries - to Valentia Island, and to a place referred to locally as 'over the water' (use is so common that I cannot for now remember its correct name!  :-[ )
Rs
K.
Title: Re: Placename Co. Kerry
Post by: celtic liberty on Sunday 11 September 11 11:05 BST (UK)

There is a place named Currow in Killarney, might not be the right place though.

Why don't you email the Killarney library at      killarney@kerrylibrary.ie   and ask them. They are sure to be able to solve the
riddle for you.

Mary
Celtic Liberty