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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: AppleiMike on Sunday 22 May 11 20:51 BST (UK)
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Hi,
have been trying for some time to identify the older man on the left in this picture. He was the owner/ manager of the Heneage Fisheries, Heneage Road, Grimsby, in approximately 1930. The person in the centre is my wife's father, Thomas Ladds (1908-2001) and it is thought that the man in question may have been his 'step father' although there is no record of a marriage that we can find.
An identifying feature is that he is missing his left arm, but little more is known than that. If anyone recognises him, or can suggest any other methods of establishing his identification we would be much obliged.
Mike
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hi mike can you tell us where thomas ladds was born as i,ve tried to find him in a census but so far without any luck .
regards
trevor
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have you tried street directories ?
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Not quite sure what you mean?
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Hi Trevor,
He was born Thomas William L Revill, in Grimsby.
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Sorry, make that Boston, Lincolnshire!
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hi mike
still stuck can,t find him , do you know his mum,s name or any siblings .
regards
trevor
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Hi Trevor,
His parents were Frederick Ladds (1860-1916) and Mary Ann Revell, (1868-1942) although there's no evidence that they ever married. Both were born in Boston, Lincolnshire.
Thanks, Mike
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have you looked to see who was at the address in the street directories in the 1930's?
or even on the electoral roles?
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Hi Toni, that's certainly something we can try.
Many Thanks, Mike
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Found two Fried Fish Dealers in Heneage Rd
H Beecham 262, Heneage Rd in 1930
Alan J Moy 97 Heneage Rd in 1935/6
in 1930 he was at 26 Nacton Street.
Any help?
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Thanks for those suggestions- I'll research them and post if they're the correct man!
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Found two Fried Fish Dealers in Heneage Rd
H Beecham 262, Heneage Rd in 1930
Alan J Moy 97 Heneage Rd in 1935/6
in 1930 he was at 26 Nacton Street.
Any help?
There is a line of shops there, but 262 doesn't look right http://tinyurl.com/3zls5jo
85 to 97 have been replaced by new houses ... 97 was a corner property http://tinyurl.com/4xy9hpu
EDIT: The 1933 directory has Beecham's as 263 http://tinyurl.com/3kjjvo2
If you look carefully at your pic, you can see the carved decoration above the door of 265 :) http://tinyurl.com/3s8prz9
Note: Harry BEECHAM was 18 in 1911.
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Hi Geoff,
it certainly looks as if 263 could be the property we're looking for. Having searched for Beechams', I've come across Herbert Beecham, born in 1884 in Boston. In 1891, he lived at 17, Clayton Street, Grimsby, and in 1901 his residence was 195, Willingham Street, Grimsby. Haven't checked 1911 yet.
Only thing I'm not convinced about is his age. If born in 1884, he would have been approx. 46 years old in the photograph. I have to say he looks quite a bit older than that! Will continue to search.
Thanks for your help,
Mike
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You are right Geoff.....I have re checked...my old eyes aint wot they used to be!!
It is Harry Beecham 263 Heneage Rd Fried Fish dealer
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I remember Ladds having a fish and chip shop on Boston High Street in the 1950s and 60s. Any connection?
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Don't know of it, sorry!
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The only problem is, if it's Harry Beecham, (Born 1893- Grimsby) he's approximately 37 years old in the photo. Could have had a hard life, I suppose!
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I remember Ladds having a fish and chip shop on Boston High Street in the 1950s and 60s. Any connection?
Don't know of it, sorry!
1933 directory again ...
LADDS John, Fried fish dealer, 109 High St, Boston
The father of this John LADD, Charles, appears to have been a brother of the Fred LADDS mentioned by Applemike. :)
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Actually Geoff, I do have a John Ladds on my tree, who is the son of Charles Ladds. He married Kate Towle, sister of Arthur Towle, (later Lucan) who was 'Old Mother Riley.' Didn't know he owned a fish and chip shop, though!
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IMHO Best fish and chips in Boston at that time. Around 1960 diversified and would do half chicken and chips for 10/-. That was good now after a saturday night out. Still open at midnight even then.
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IMHO Best fish and chips in Boston at that time. Around 1960 diversified and would do half chicken and chips for 10/-. That was good now after a saturday night out. Still open at midnight even then.
It appears to be a house now http://tinyurl.com/4xj7kpb
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I am having trouble finding anything, ::)
death for Frederick Ladds 1916 ???
this is the only one I can find, but thats before Thomas William L revell was born,
LADDS, Frederick
Registration District: Help Boston
County: Lincolnshire
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 72
Volume No: 7A
Page No: 296
cannot find 3 year old Thomas on census, under Ladds or Revell/Revill.
frustrating :) :) who is the one armed man ???
maybe the Saturday boy ::)
Eilleen.
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Hi Eillien,
Thomas William L Revell birth record was, Lincolnshire, Volume 7a, page 399.
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cannot find 3 year old Thomas on census, under Ladds or Revell/Revill.
He is indexed as Jonas LADDS (but I think he is "Tomas")
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You're right. his name was mis-spelled.
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http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk/bygoneshome/dailybygones?page=5
maybe send photo to the place most likely to know, the local paper :)
Eilleen.
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Might be worth a try. Thanks!
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It appears to be a house now http://tinyurl.com/4xj7kpb
Next door to what when I lived there was a bike shop (at least it's still a shop) prop. Percy? Jackson.