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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: louisesteele on Sunday 22 May 11 00:50 BST (UK)
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Not to sure how roots chat works :(Im a desendant of james lamper,Reuben Lamper the lishers ect.
Have a tree on Ancestry and wandered if I could find any help or contacts here.
My Grandfather was Arthur Lamper,son of Albert Edward lamper.
They all mostly lived in East Sussex.
Also looking for info or desendants of James George Townsend of lewes.
Thanks Sharon.
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Hi Sharon,
As you are new, I think you can be forgiven for the Cardinal sin of giving us no dates to work on.
Do I assume that your Reuban/Reuben Lamper/Lampar was the one who married Caroline Knight in Lancing in 1844, or was he the one born in Sompting circa 1840 who appears on the 1881 census in Bread Street Brighton with Jane and their family?
Alternatively, was he one of those that family researchers on Genes believe was born in Brighton in 1885 or 1855, for even though neither appears on FreeBMD (suggesting a dislike for official registration and a possible preference for partnerships rather than marriages) there are a number of people that have a family interest in these too.
There are already some Lamper /Lisher discussions on this site from an earlier period
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,93037.msg396178.html
but without knowing a rough birth year of the individuals you have an interest in, it is rather difficult for us to direct you to where you may find further info and others who share your interest.
Roy G
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Hello Sharon,
Many of the posts about Lampers were from me! We share the same gg grandfather James. I am descended from his son James who was Reubens brother.
I have managed to contact two cousins (who I did not know about) who live in brighton so we have swapped some information. Let me know what you want to know and I will try to help.
Best wishes Thelma (Lamper)
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Hello Thelma Lovely to hear from you,my mess from you only comes up on my emails,not on my log on account with Roots? finding this very hard to get to grips on here,silly me!
I have a large tree on Ancestry and have been doing research into the Lampers for about 18 months,have you a tree anywhere?
Reuben was my 2x Great Grandad on my mums side, and for some reason he has always drawn me to him.
His and James mother Sarah Hollingdale(1816) was her Mother Mary Ives(1786)? cant find a lot about her? do you have any photos? many of the Lamper family that I was close to have now passed on.
Would love to get in touch and speak.
I live in Peacehaven Sussex.
Nice to have spoken to you and to have a another cousin.
Sharon x
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Personal message show at the very top right of the page when you log on. Click there and you can access them.
Andrea
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Hi Sharon. I have sent you a personal message but called you Louise. Oops sorry.
Thelma
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I too am researching the Lampers. Florence Lamper was my children's Great Grandmother. Her father was Alfred H Lamper. I believe he was born before his parents, James Lamper and Hannah Trangmar, were married. I have been unable to find a birth, marriage or death record for him, nor birth records for the three children, Frank, Florence and Margaret. I have been trying to get a birth certificate so that I can find out the maiden name of their mother, Alice. Any information would be much appreciated. (I am new to RootsChat so am not quite sure how it works.
Patsy Anne
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Sorry Patsy, but do you have a rough idea of where and when any of these were born or married? Knowing would help narrow down the area of search considerably.
For example, there was a HANNAH FLORENCE Lamper who married in Brighton in 1906. Was she yours, or does that date and place make my assumption way out?
Roy G
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I have since found a link (also on the Rootschat website) from another Rootshatter who shares your problem. Perhaps you should read that through first for it certainly seems to provide a few answers. It was written 8 years ago, so if you are lucky, the submitter may have made that all important breakthrough since then.
Roy G
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=117986.0
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Thanks Roy G. I have read all the post and would like to contact the person who posted them but don't know how. I can confirm for her that Alfred H Lamper was married to Alice and they had the three children, Frank, Florence and Margaret. But, like her, I have been unable to find any further info on Alfred's birth, his marriage to Alice or his death or the births of the three children.
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Hello. I put all the Lamper's posts on so I am really pleased to have a new contact. It is ages since I looked at my Lamper information so I will just say hi for now and get back to you when I have looked up the some answers. I won't be long!
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Hello again
I don't think I am going to be much help but this is the information that I have. James Lamper and Hannah Trangmar do not appear to have married. I have not looked recently but could find no trace of a marriage although on the 1911 census I think it states married. One problem both Lamper and Trangmar are spelt many different ways.
James and Hannah had Albert H born 1869 in Middlesex London which is the first mystery because the rest of the children were born in Brighton. In the 1891 census he was listed as blacksmith at home. The other sons are James born 1877 and Albert E born 1882 ( He was my grandfather)
The daughters were Annie M born 1873, Nellie Louise born 1879 and Hannah Florence born 1884. I have photos of all three daughters.
In the 1901 census James and Hannah are living at 59 Ewart Street Brighton with their children Albert and Hannah. Also living there was Alice Lamper widow charwoman with son Frank,b1892, Florence b 1894 and daughter Margaret. I had written in my notes 'Was this Alfred's widow?' so from what you have said the answer is yes. Alice Lamper was born 1868 in Brighton and died Jul 1947 Brighton 5h 37.
In the 1891 census the family are listed as Samper. On some of the birth certificates Hannah Trangmar is called Annie so it is quite a difficult trail to follow.
As I haven't looked at any records recently new ones may have appeared. I would love to find James and Hannahs marriage! I have traced the family back to 1779 so if you want more information please ask. I have also made contact with Lamper cousin's who still live in Brighton. Both of them have been very helpful.
I hope someone can look up Alice and her children with the dates I have given. Good luck with the hunt. Thelma (was Lamper)
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Hello Thelma
The Lampers are driving me crazy. I knew all the details you have given. Alfred H Lamper is a real problem. I assumed he was born in London because Hannah and James were not married but I have been unable to find a birth record. He must have died before 1901, but I cannot find a death record, nor his marriage to Alice. I have found some Military records for an Alfred Lamper born in Brighton in 1870 but that information does not tie up with the census records. I have a copy of Florence Lamper's marriage in 1914 but that doesn't help much. And I cannot find a record of her birth nor that of Frank and Margaret. Florence and Margaret were both lovely ladies by the way. My late father-in-law was the informant on Frank Lamper's death certificate. What I really want is their birth certificates so that I can find out Alice's maiden name. It is so frustrating. Regards Patsy Anne