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Could someone please help me go back one generation?
Ebenezer Atkinson m Hannah Adamson 1809, Kirby Hill. Pallotts record. He was a Blacksmith and Publican.
I have looked on IGI and found a record but the birthplace was Hartwith (about 24 miles from Thirsk).
In 1841 he can be found here:
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1249; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Pickhill; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 3; Page: 8; Line: 9; GSU roll: 464231.
He died in 1850.
Any help very much appreciated, thankyou.
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Do I need to give more information if I can find any?
Thank you
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The 1841 census generally rounds ages down to the nearest 5 so that someone showing as 20 could be up to 24 etc. That being the case you may need to expand your dates for searching. Taking 70 from 1841 means you need to be looking from 1771 back.
Andrea
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Thank you for your reply. I got confused re your 1841 - 70 doesn't = 1809 but I see you have edited. I thought it was me going mad :'(
I realise the early census ages are very unreliable I was concerned about 24 miles between known living area and possible birth area. I guess it's feasible.
Thanks again.
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Yes, I got confused too! One problem is that the IGI is not full coverage so there could be several other baptisms in churches which are not on it. The only way is to work out from the original place and search all the registers. It is very time consuming. Atkinson is such a common name in that area too.
Does the marriage entry hold any clues in the way of witnesses? Did he leave a will?
I am assuming that the Ann who is with him in 1841 is a daughter, or even grandaughter. What children did he have? He may have named them after his parents.
Andrea
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This is what I have found:
Birth year clueless unless his age as 71 +/- tolerances on 1841 census is correct
Married Hannah Adamson 1809 Kirby Hill - only occupation and from Thirsk information on record
Died 1850
Children: Henry 1813, James 1818, Anna 1821 - 1892 (my 2nd gt. grandmother) - found by trawling through PRs.
The family settled in Pickhill.
I have looked and looked but probably overlooked something that will be glaringly obvious to someone else ??? so if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful. As he is direct line I really want to go back a little further.
Thanks again.
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The 1841 does state Ebenezer was born in county. Although the IGI record mentioned for the birthplace, states Hartwith - it also has the place of Ebenezer's baptism ( 11th November 1768 ) and their residence as St. Botolph, Bishopsgate in London.
I wonder if this birth is supposedly the same as the above :
Ebenezer Atkinson
Birth, 11th November 1768
Knaresborough, Yorkshire
Parents : James and Jane Atkinson
For some reason this doesn't sound right to me. Not a lot of help really, but I agree with Andrea - I'm not sure his birth is listed online.
Pels.
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Thanks for replying Pels. Looking at it logically, well as far as I can, the family do seem to be rooted in Pickhill. That's the reason I didn't accept the Hartwith location.
I accept that one or two children could be born outside of the family area due to Mother visiting relatives but not a bundle of them.
I thought it would a fairly easy name to research - wrong!
Thanks again.
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A possible way forward might be to get a copy of the marriage record from the parish records (not the pallots record as they don't usually have all the information) as there might be extra information on there taht couyld help you identify him going back
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A possible way forward might be to get a copy of the marriage record from the parish records (not the pallots record as they don't usually have all the information) as there might be extra information on there taht couyld help you identify him going back
Oh, thank you, I'll look into that :)
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The Ebenezer Atkinson birth at Hartwith on the IGI was from the Quaker records, Knaresborough Meeting, deposited in London hence the confusion on the IGI.
Quaker records tend to be in family blocks rather than by date, so this is Ebenezer and siblings. Birth records as Quakers didn't do baptisms.
1766. Ann the daughter of James Atkinson and Jane, his wife, was born the 17th day of the 9th month, 1766 at Hartwith in the Parish of Kirby Malzerd.
1767. James Atkinson, son of the aforesaid James and Jane Atkinson of Hartwith, was born the 16th day of the 8th month 1767.
1768. Ebenezer Atkinson, son of the aforesaid James and Jane Atkinson of Hartwith, was born the 11th of the 11th month 1768.
1771. John Atkinson, son of the aforesaid James and Jane Atkinson, was born the 25th day of the 3rd month 1771.
1773. Thomas Atkinson, son of the aforesaid James and Jane Atkinson, of Mauk Hill in Darley, in the Parish of Hampsthwaite, was born the 29th day of the 5th month 1773.
1778. Jane Atkinson, daughter of the aforesaid James and Jane Atkinson, of Cinder Hill in Darley, in the Parish of Hampsthwaite, was born the 12th day of the 6th month 1778.
Alan.
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Hi Alan,
Thank you so much for that information. Now I can begin looking for siblings too in order to go forward (or backward..lol)
I always find the IGI records a tad confusing and I am never confident about the local districts being the appropriate ones. Thank you again.
It's very kind of everyone who helped me.
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Hi,
I came across this posting from 2011 when searching the web and wondered if you were still interested in Ebenezer Atkinson? I have a distant connection to him and have gathered quite a lot of information from his 3 marriages and some descendants, especially his daughter Elizabeth born in 1793 (mother - Edith Dodgson).
Regards,
Jon
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Hi Jon, thanks for your message. Yes I am still adding more information to this branch and would be very pleased to learn what information you have.
Sue
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Hi Sue,
My research is based around Ebenezer’s first marriage to Edith Dodgson in October 1792. From what I can see they had 1 daughter, Elizabeth, before Edith died in June 1795. Ebenezer re-married in November 1796 to Ann Stockdale but I have no record of any children. Ann must have died before 1809 because as you know, in June of that year he married again to Hannah Adamson and I believe they had 5 children. Hannah died in December 1834.
Elizabeth at some point moved to London and in September 1821 married William Ellis and then later again in 1841 to Joseph Langley. The Ellis's had 7 children, the eldest of which Edith (born September 1822) is my G2 grandmother. I guess that makes Ebenezer my G4 grandfather, albeit by a rather convoluted route which I can explain later if it’s of interest.
Ebenezer was the son of James (1770) and Jane Atkinson, and his paternal grandparents were Thomas Atkinson (1704-1782) and Mary Hardcastle.
I have quite a lot more detail on the above (dates, names, images and source information) that I could send to you if that helps and you agree with my findings. I have not spent too much time on the Atkinson family as my main interest is in Elizabeth, so if you have any information about when she died, that would be a great help to me.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards,
Jon
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Thanks Jon, I haven't forgotten you, I'll reply when I feel a little better :'(
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Hi Sue.
Thanks for the update and sorry to hear you are unwell - hope you get better soon.
Kind Regards,
Jon
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Hi Jon,
Sorry for the delay.
I'll get onto the reply within the next couple of days.
Kind regards
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Did you mange to post a reply?
Regards,
Jon