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Title: Robert Grimsey, Publican, London prior to 1837
Post by: cosmos on Saturday 21 May 11 19:52 BST (UK)

Can anyone help with finding Robert Grimsey. In 1837 he was listed as a publican in London when his son, James, married Catherine Pritchard. Does a list of publicans exist. Thanks.

Title: Re: Robert Grimsey, Publican, London prior to 1837
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 21 May 11 22:16 BST (UK)

James bapt St.John the Evangalist Westminster 21/4/1816 parents Robert & Mary Barton Street Publican

James remarried as a widower in St.Mary's Marylebone 13/7/1863 to Joyce Dicks (wid) nee Bunce Robert still given as alive!

Joyce is already showing as his wife in 1861 census!

Jennifer

Title: Re: Robert Grimsey, Publican, London prior to 1837
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 21 May 11 22:24 BST (UK)

Seems James had a brother Joseph bapt 2/1/1814 still living in Barton Street.

Jennifer

Title: Re: Robert Grimsey, Publican, London prior to 1837
Post by: cosmos on Sunday 22 May 11 03:36 BST (UK)

Thanks so much, must look into this as soon as the long weekend is over.Thanks again.

Title: Re: Robert Grimsey, Publican, London prior to 1837
Post by: [Ray] on Sunday 22 May 11 12:27 BST (UK)

Hi

Kevan's Deadpubs has this Barton Street pub

http://www.deadpubs.co.uk/LondonPubs/WestminsterStJohn/Salutation.shtml

but of course it may not have been the one they "managed"

Ray

Title: Re: Robert Grimsey, Publican, London prior to 1837
Post by: Valda on Sunday 22 May 11 15:07 BST (UK)

Hi

Licensed victuallers records (London Metropolitan Archives information leaflet)

http://217.154.230.218/NR/rdonlyres/B7371446-9CC3-470D-A3B3-6A2AB0FCA9AF/0/45LICENSEDVICTUALLERSRECORDS.pdf


Regards

Valda

Title: Re: Robert Grimsey, Publican, London prior to 1837
Post by: jorose on Monday 23 May 11 12:50 BST (UK)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/
 - the Sun Fire Office insurances records can be helpful.
In 1808 Robert Grimsey, victualler, was insured at the Salutation, Barton St (In 1806 a Robert Rogers was insured at the same address)
In 1823 Robert Grimsey, "gentleman", was insured at a different address - perhaps retired by then? - or a different man?

Just because Robert wasn't listed as deceased in 1863 doesn't mean he was alive.
I can't see him in 1841 and http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/ does show a possible will in 1825.

Title: Re: Robert Grimsey, Publican, London prior to 1837
Post by: cosmos on Tuesday 24 May 11 18:37 BST (UK)

Thank you very much for this. Much appreciated.