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Title: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Ann12 on Tuesday 26 April 05 20:30 BST (UK)
Hi,

Would anyone know what a Mathematical Instrument Maker would of made?  According to the 1861 census of London an ancestor of mine was one.

Thanks

Ann
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: D ap D on Wednesday 27 April 05 10:30 BST (UK)
I'd say he'd probably make things like compasses, dividers, protractors etc.

I was given an old victorian set when I started uni, much more accurate than the mass produced stuff you can buy today.

They are the most beautiful set of instruments, all make of brass and obviously hand made. A definite work of art made by someone who took pride in his trade.
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Rod In Sussex on Wednesday 27 April 05 19:53 BST (UK)
And don't overlook the slide rule, or is that unknown to the modern world?

Rod
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Ann12 on Wednesday 27 April 05 21:13 BST (UK)
Hi,

And the slide rule is??

Ann
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Little Nell on Wednesday 27 April 05 21:22 BST (UK)
It's about the the length of a standard ruler, but wider - the middle section slides/moves and has a different scale or scales on it enabling very complicated calculations to be made before electronic calculators had been developed.  My father used one for most of his working life.

For what looks like the complicated low down on how they work, see here:
http://www.hpmuseum.org/sliderul.htm
and here for a picture of one:
http://www.sliderules.clara.net/
or:
http://www.ox.compsoc.net/~swhite/history/slide-rule.html

Nell
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Ann12 on Wednesday 27 April 05 21:33 BST (UK)
Now I understand why by the 1870's he had become a Bank Manager.  Obviously good with maths!  Shame it didn't pass down through the generations.

Ann
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Rod In Sussex on Wednesday 27 April 05 21:43 BST (UK)
Nell,

I think I still have my old slide rule somewhere. Never needed batteries, was never replaced by a more up to date version, never crashed and did not cost hundreds of pounds!

Rod
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Little Nell on Wednesday 27 April 05 21:53 BST (UK)
Yeah, I remember as a child playing with the slide rule and actually making sense of the instructions I was given.  It looked remarkably like the one on the second site I mentioned.  Himself still has one in the house somewhere - no doubt it too still works!  ;D

Nell
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: RJ_Paton on Wednesday 27 April 05 22:17 BST (UK)
Please, I remember using one and the lessons at school on how to use them ..... once you worked it out it was amazing how quickly you could perform even very complex mathematical calculations ..... you could even perform log calculations without referring to a log book. ....... the good old days.  ;D
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Rod In Sussex on Wednesday 27 April 05 22:24 BST (UK)
NOT the good old days, but yours and mine!
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: sparrett on Monday 02 May 05 08:59 BST (UK)
Hello Ann and Co.

My great grandfather was a surgical instrument maker.  I shudder to think what scary forms his work took, but would be very interested to know the actual process for the making.  Like the mathematical instruments it must have involved complex metal work.

Any guidance?  Sue
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: RJ_Paton on Monday 02 May 05 10:12 BST (UK)
Although an american site this one has plenty of images to show the type of instruments a surgeon would use in the 1860's

www.braceface.com/medical

which may give an insight into the process of making them
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 04 May 05 11:10 BST (UK)
Hi Falkyrn,
I loved the website you sent me to.  What a gruesome looking collection.  Thanks for your interest.  Sue.
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Janpearey on Monday 03 May 21 04:18 BST (UK)

Would anyone know what a Mathematical Instrument Maker would of made?  According to the 1861 census of London an ancestor of mine was one.

My ancestor was also one in the 1861 census.  Mine was Abel Kitching Mileson on Emmett Street, Limehouse.  How about you?
Title: Re: Mathematical Instrument Maker
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Monday 03 May 21 10:19 BST (UK)
"perform log calculations without referring to a log book"

We found the wife's grandfather's "Log book" It showed how many he would saw in a day, chop up and burn in a week. He used to note the weather in it as well, and therefore how many logs were required to keep warm.

Malky