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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: annejan_1 on Friday 20 May 11 11:46 BST (UK)
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Greetings from Canada, i am excited that I will be in Perthshire next month and I'm hoping for info as to following. Had some contact with forum member a couple of years ago re: my McLaren, McGregor & McKerrachers on Kirk Lane 1814 census.
Re: Kirk Lane graveyard anyone know if Alexander McGregor (1766-1837) & Janet McGregor and their son John McGregor (1803-1886) & Marion Robertson are buried there?
Re: Balquidder or Glen Lyon area Is there a local family history centre in either place?
Thanks, Jan
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This would be Kirk Lane and the parish is Kincardine; the census is the Moss census of 1814.
Nearest village was Thornhill or Norrieston (now both in Stirlingshire due to boundaries change)
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/PER/Kincardine/Gaz1868.html
http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/137942/photographs/thornhill+main+street+norrieston+parish+church+and+churchyard/
I visited the graveyard recently and many of the earlier stones are illegible. There is a book of MI for most of the church and graveyards locally.
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Kirk Lane is between 19 - 20 miles from Balquidder. Glen Lyon (further north again) through Killin heading for Fortingall or Pitlochry perhaps as much as 45 miles from Kirk Lane.
As far as I'm aware there are no graveyards actually in Kirk Lane (might be wrong) but you are best to check with monks09 a Rootschat member who would be able to help more with local graveyards.
The McGregors were more clan based at Balquidder (Rob Roy's grave is nearby).
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Hi annejan.
There is a graveyard at Blairdrummond on the A84 not far from Kirklane but i would also check New Kilmadock near Doune.
Could one of your McKerracher decendants be the late Archie McKerracher local historian and writer? Check out for book Pertshire in History and Legend by him.
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Kincardine in Menteith (Blairdrummond) graveyard.
No: 117 Alexander McGregor
died 25.6.1837 age 73.
Janet McGregor
died 20.10.1845 age 82.
Hope this is some help.
Kenny
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Thanks Kenny, Is 117 a help in finding a gravestone?
I'm also looking for burial of Peter McLaren and daughter Isabella. Died at Doune within 5 months of each other. She Dec. 1855 and he May 1866. Registration says buried in Kincardine Cemetary but maybe Kilmadock? Will try to stop off there.
Just to add to the list: Peter's parents Alexander McLaren and Janet Fergusson
His wife's parents Duncan McLaren and Isobel McGregor (Alexander & Janet are her parents)
Thanks again. I"m very greatful for the help. Is great to have someone "on the ground" ahead of arrival. Jan
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Hi Again Kenny, I meant to say that I wondered about Archie McKerracher and have read some article by him. My Mc Kerrachers originally came from Glen Lyon and I believe he did too. Haven't been able to find any bio of him to check.
Is there a pattern for your knitted hat? Its great! Jan
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Hi Jan,
I am interested in your McKerracher connection as I am also researching McKerrachers from Glen Lyon. I know from looking at records that there were a lot of McKerrachers in that area but if you can give me a few details of the names you are researching we can see if they connect in any way.
Poppyd
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Hi Jan.
I am actually wearing one of the original costumes from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
We were having pictures done for postcards to raise money for local Historical Society ;D
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Sorry. 117 will probably be burial plot number.
Kenny
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Monk: Haven't seen the Holy Grail for many years. I must have another look on my return to Canada.
I have an address for a local heritage centre in Doune and intend to visit. Is there such a thing in the Blair Drummond/ Gargunnock area? Jan
Poppyd: My McKerrachers were John b. 1743/44 at Glen Lyon, Fortingall d. 1794 ?? m. Elizabeth McNaughton
He appears at #32 Kirk Lane in the 1814 Moss Census along with his son Finlay (b. 1783/84 Glen Lyon) and his wife Janet McKendrick. They emigrated to Ontario Canada with their kids in 1832. He died at age 84 and she at age 75. They are my 3g grandparents. More information on them and their kids if they are a match to some one you are looking for.
Thanks all, Jan
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Jan. The Information and Heritage centre is on the Main street in Doune opposite the old church (I stay a couple of streets away) The staff are friendly and Nigel Bishop who is in charge is very helpful as much as he can be. Blairdrummond itself is mainly farms with a few houses and Scotlands only Safari Park ( NO shops etc ) it is only 2 miles from Doune. Gargunnock doesn't have a heritage centre (it only has one shop) but there is a website run by a local gentleman John McLaren who knows quite a bit about the local area ,his family have been around there for many generations so you could try contacting him, mention that it was me who gave you his name Kenny Lauder.
Gargunnock is about 6 miles from Doune and 4 from Blairdrummond so you can easly get between them in a day.
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Should have said that there is only about 8 or 9 houses on the Kirk Lane these days.
With the progress in agriculture over the years bigger farms appeared and the smaller holdings disapeared.
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Hi Jan,
I don't think we have a connection. My 3x great grandfather is Malcolm McKerracher or McKercher born at Fortingall in 1796 and son of Donald McKercher and Christian McLellan.
Thanks for replying .
Regards
Poppyd
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Hi
I am also "trying" to research at least one McKerchar line from Fortingal Parish in the Glen Lyon.
As you would know, there were a number of Malcolm McKerchars baptised in Fortingal between 1795 and 1800; however, the main one of interest to me at this stage is Malcolm McKerchar born and bap. 27 Mar 1796 Camsuvrachan, Glen Lyon.
As yet, I have not confirmed his survival/death/ marriage/ locations. He was the son of John McKerchar (1746-1835) and Margaret Campbell from Slatich. His parents have left Glen Lyon post 1801 and settled at Tirai, Glen Lochay. I have researched a number of his siblings, with the youngest James McKerchar returned to occupy Dalcherlich for the 1841 - 1861 Censuses.
There are a number of possible spouses (if he did marry); however, I need the appropriate proof that makes the connection.
This John McKerchar was one of the McKerchars from Balnahanaid. His granddaughter Elizabeth McKerchar married into the McCallum/Menzies Clan from the Innerwick Inn, thus my connection and interest.
Looking to share information.
Keith
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Greetings from Canada Keith, My folks are spelled McKerracher but could be a variation. Mine are John McKerracher and wife Elizabeth McNaughton who left Glen Lyon @ 1807 moving to Kir Lane on Blair Drummond Moss near Stirling. Their son Finlay & wife Janet were there until emigrating to Canada in 1832. Their son Robert is my 2G grandfather.
I went to Fortingall and Glen Lyon a year ago - found only 1 McKerracher stone. The place I stayed was a ways down the Glen at Camusvrachan!!
Send me a PM if you'd like to know more. Cheers, Jan
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Hi Annejan , interested in your McLarens. your Peter who dies in 1856. i am in contact with descendants of his brother Malcolm McLaren. see this link re these McLarens.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=doigk&id=I42290
send personal message and i will give you , their email address in Canada. have also looked at Peter's death certificate on Scotlandspeople , can e mail you too (supply your e mail)
yours gordon
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Hi Annejan , interested in your McLarens. your Peter who dies in 1856. i am in contact with descendants of his brother Malcolm McLaren. see this link re these McLarens.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=doigk&id=I42290
send personal message and i will give you , their email address in Canada. have also looked at Peter's death certificate on Scotlandspeople , can e mail you too (supply your e mail)
yours gordon
Thank you so much for the link. The link takes me to my gg-grandfather's line, but I did not see the McLarens that were from the Midlothian area of Scotland around Edinburgh and Restalrig. Two McLaren brothers, Peter (b. 1862) and George worked for the railroad.
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If you are searching McKerrachers/McKerchar/McKericher/McKercher etc suggest you look at McKercher.org
Kori Moleski has done a great job putting most known information together in the one place.
In terms of using Koris site though just use McKercher for search purposes.
Hope this helps
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If you are searching McKerrachers/McKerchar/McKericher/McKercher etc suggest you look at McKercher.org
Kori Moleski has done a great job putting most known information together in the one place.
In terms of using Koris site though just use McKercher for search purposes.
Hope this helps
Excellent site but how do I contact them?
They have a marriage of a Duncan McKerchar and Helen Lawrie (but no parents/ancestors of Helen).
Also missing is the marriage of Janet McKerchar daughter of Duncan & Helen to James Lawrie (Janet's uncle).
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In terms of contacting Kori use a dot between first and second names at gmail.
I understand emails addresses are not to be posted here but can be copied into private messages... I'm a bunny at this site so am needing to clock up time here to private message.
Trusting this helps.
regards Allan
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I've sent ye an email ;D