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Title: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Flakdodger on Monday 16 May 11 22:20 BST (UK)
Hello,
I would be very grateful for guidance on Blaina burials 1943.
I am researching the Civilian War Dead of my town (Bexhill on Sea, East Sussex). One of them is a Bertram George NINER, buried approx 16 Feb 1943.
Family connections caused his body to be taken to Blaina for interment
Present family recall visiting the grave about 30 years ago, sited at a disused Chapel. No other details can be recalled.
Any leads as to disused Chapels or their burial records would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
Dave
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Wednesday 18 May 11 22:40 BST (UK)

You could purchace a booklet from this site.

 http://www.parishchest.com

Aberstruth(Blaina) Register of Burials 1829 - 1944 Only cost £4.00

Hope this helps

Alfred
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Flakdodger on Wednesday 18 May 11 23:43 BST (UK)
Alfred,
that is an excellent lead. Thank you. I will follow it up
Regards
Dave
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Thursday 19 May 11 00:02 BST (UK)
I believe there is three cemeteries’s in Blaina, the only one that I can think of that might have had a old chapel 30 years ago being St Peters. The chapel has now been replaced with a new one. Unfortunately the cemetery has been cleared with only a few headstones remaining. Will try and find out details on the other cemetery for you.

By the way I have the Register of Burials 1829 1944 but not at home with me at the moment I will try and get it back tomorrow and check for the name you are looking for.
Cheers

Alfred
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Thursday 19 May 11 00:15 BST (UK)
Hi Dave I think you are going to like this.

Bertram George Niner was not buried in Blaina but in Blaenau Gwent Baptist  Chapel 31st January 1943  This cemetery was  cleared of old dangerous heat stone back in 1978. I have been to this cemetery many time and I think that war grave stones were left in place so should still be there. I can visit if you like and get a pic for you if you want. Please let me know.

Cheers

Alfred
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Thursday 19 May 11 00:28 BST (UK)
It just keps on getting better, Monumemtal Inscription reads.

In loving Memory of LEWIS, the beloved son of TALIESIN & GOLEUDDYDD JONES of Blaine died October 29th 1905 aged 10 months. Also of the above named TALIESIN JONES, who died April 11th 1925 aged 49 years, also of BERTRAM G NINER, Son in law of the above, died January 31st 1943 aged 39 years, also the above GOLEUDDYDD JONES DIED April 28th 1967 aged 87 years, also JOHN JONES, died 10th December 1974 aged 68


Let me know if you want a pic if stone still in place.

You owe me a pint next time you in Wales

Cheers

Alfred
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Flakdodger on Thursday 19 May 11 21:15 BST (UK)
Alfred,
Oh my word, it certainly does get better ! Apologies for delay in response - work is the curse of the researching classes.
I have had to keep re-reading your posts and I think I have started to grasp it.
I had not expected an MI and especially one that revealed a family grave.
The Welsh connection was never quite clear as the Niner family are Sussex folk, who can be traced back to Devon. I did know that his wife was Welsh.
Delighted to know where "Grandad Bert" (as I have come to know him) is buried and I will pass all this info onto his Grandson.
You mention your familiarity with Blaenau Gwent Baptist  Chapel and the possibility of a photo.
Owing a pint seems cheap at a fraction of the price. I am now going to PM you, and once again, my very grateful thanks.
Dave
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1852
Post by: gower on Wednesday 02 August 17 12:59 BST (UK)
Please can someone help with a burial in Blaina after 24th July 1852. David Waters ( killed at Tillery Colliery) thanks
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Wednesday 02 August 17 16:37 BST (UK)
Hi Gower I have a small amount of burial records from Blaina Cemetery which I have checked for you but unfortunately not able to find David Waters.

Alfred
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: gower on Sunday 20 August 17 12:16 BST (UK)
Thank you Alfred
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: trevalyn on Tuesday 22 December 20 20:46 GMT (UK)
I have just discovered this correspondence. I have been looking for burial details for SAM COOPER, 8 Morgan Street, Blaina who died on 10 Jan 1917 after service with Royal Field Artillery. Any info re his place of burial would be hugely welcome. Trevalyn.
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Wednesday 23 December 20 22:43 GMT (UK)

Sorry I can't find a burial for Sam Cooper.

Is this the Sam Cooper you were looking for.?

DRIVER
SAM COOPER
Service Number: 30613
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Royal Field Artillery
Date of Death
Died 10 January 1917
Buried or commemorated at
UNITED KINGDOM BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE
United Kingdom
Husband of Mary Ann Cooper of Abertillery, Mon.

NAME:   Sam Cooper
MILITARY YEAR:   1914-1920
RANK:   Driver
UNIT:   Royal Field Artillery
COMPANY:   WO 329
REGIMENT OR CORPS:   Royal Field Artillery
REGIMENT NUMBER:   30613
MEDAL AWARDED:   British War Medal and Victory Medal
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: trevalyn on Wednesday 23 December 20 22:58 GMT (UK)
Yes, that's the man. Still don't know where he is buried bit I'll keep looking. And thank you for trying. Happy Christmas.
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Wednesday 23 December 20 23:09 GMT (UK)

Bingo.

Sam lived in Abertillery and not Blaina.
He is buried in Blaenau Gwent Cemetery Abertillery.

Certificates of Registry of Death for Blaenau Gwent Baptist Chapel.
Sam Cooper 8 Morgan Street Abertillery 10th Jan 1917 Aged 53

Purchasers of Graves for Blaenau Gwent Baptist Chapel.
M. A. Cooper for Husband of 8 Morgan Street Abertillery 13th Jan 1917
Row 40 / Grave G090.

Happy Christmas

Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: trevalyn on Thursday 24 December 20 09:49 GMT (UK)
What a great result - I've been searching for this man for some considerable time. Can you confirm that the burial records are held by Blaenau Gwent Baptist Chapel? Also, if you have easy access to the records, could I ask you to check for GEORGE BRAIN, 9 Newadd St, Abertillery who died on 22 Dec 1919. Both these men were war casualties. I am most grateful for your help.
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Thursday 24 December 20 11:48 GMT (UK)
I don’t know where the original records are held. The records that I have been transcribed by The Gwent Family History Society. They are available for purchase in booklet and on CD from them for a small fee. You can easily find them on line.

Certificates of Registry of Death for Blaenau Gwent Baptist Chapel
George James 9 Neuadd Street Abertillery 26 year 22 December 1919

Purchasers of Graves for Blaenau Gwent Baptist Chapel
Geo for Son Neuadd Street 22 December 1919
Row 35 / Grave G061

Alfred

Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: trevalyn on Thursday 24 December 20 14:23 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for your help: I can follow up both men via the Chapel. Just one query - you refer to
"George James", 9 Neuadd St whereas I have him as "George Brain". Does the name Brain appear anywhere in your version of the records?
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Thursday 24 December 20 14:38 GMT (UK)

 George James Brain 9 Neuadd Street
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: trevalyn on Thursday 24 December 20 15:19 GMT (UK)
Great - that clarifies that one.Now I will leave you in peace to enjoy your Christmas
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Alfred Smith on Thursday 24 December 20 15:33 GMT (UK)

This might be of interest to you, its the only other entry's I have for "Brain" in Blaenau Gwent Cemetery. There are a few however in St Paul's Cwmtillery if of interest to you.

Purchasers of Grave Blaenau Gwent Baptist Chapel.
George Brain of Cwmtillery for wife 19.12.1895

Registry for Death Blaenau Gwent Baptist Chapel.
Victor Brain Bridge Shop Cwmtillery 26 years 08.11.1918

Happy to help if I can.
Alfred
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: Stoob on Thursday 31 December 20 08:53 GMT (UK)
The funeral report of Bertram George Niner was printed in the South Wales Gazette on 12 February 1943, - page 7.
Title: Re: Blaina burials 1943
Post by: trevalyn on Thursday 31 December 20 11:19 GMT (UK)
Alfred. Thanks to your help I have now found the two men I was looking for (WW1 casualties) at Blaenau Gwent Chapel. Happy New Year to you - and to everybody on RootsChat.