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Title: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: abigail666 on Sunday 15 May 11 14:26 BST (UK)
I would love any info, on whereabouts of any of the relations, of the sutherlands or mcknights, that lived in killarney st in belfast. abigail
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 15 May 11 14:40 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat. A John Sutherland and family were living at 19 Killarney Street in 1911- house #26 on census form-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Court_Ward/Killarney_Street/149152

In 1901 they are living with his father James in Ballykennedy townland-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dundesert/Ballykennedy/917316
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: abigail666 on Tuesday 17 May 11 22:38 BST (UK)
Thank You, Yes John Sutherland, would have been my mothers Grandfather, it's confusing because the Mcknights also lived in Killarney street Belfast, for a time, and it looks like that's where her mother met her father.
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 18 May 11 08:31 BST (UK)
Abigail,
          The following is speculative but may be relevant.
29 Nov 1899 John Sutherland married Jane Graham in Dundrod Presbyterian Church, Co. Antrim. Fathers' names were James Sutherland and James Graham.
John Alexander Sutherland was born on 9 Oct 1872 to James Sutherland and Jane Anna Porter in Crumlin, Co.Antrim. James Sutherland and Jane Porter married on 11 Jul 1871 in Killead Presbyterian Church, Co. Antrim. Fathers were John Sutherland and Samuel Porter.

Regards
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: abigail666 on Wednesday 18 May 11 13:01 BST (UK)
Thank You so much for this precious information, about the Mcknights/ sutherlands, i am in no doubt that it is revelant, and very kind of you to give it your time. Abigail xx
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: Magheragall on Thursday 26 May 11 21:59 BST (UK)

Don't think this is linked to your Sutherlands but it is in the geneal south antrim area, headstone in magheragall parish church

Erected By
Robert Sutherland
In memory of his wife
Jane Sutherland
Who died 31st December 1892
Aged 56 years
Also his daughter May
Who died 22nd February 1909
Also the above named Robert Sutherland
Who died 27th May 1910 aged 74 years

so it might be of interest to you or perhaps someone else tracing the names,

yours

magheragall
 
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: abigail666 on Friday 27 May 11 14:21 BST (UK)
Magheragall, Thank you so much for this information, i will follow it up. Abigail xx
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: Magheragall on Wednesday 25 April 12 23:21 BST (UK)
In respect of the above headstone, I am trying to find out details about this family, information gathered so far

Robert & Jane Sutherland married 06/02/1859

Jane Sutherland of The Maze Aged 57 buried 02/01/1893
Robert Sutherland of 11 Dunluce Avenue Aged 74 buried 29/05/1910

Extracted from records of Magheragall Parish the following children of this couple

1.   Born 05th September 1859 Jane Sutherland daughter of Robert & Jane Sutherland of Lissue Married William John Nelson and on 1911 Census still alive with 3 adult children

2.   Born 26th December 1860 Baptised on 10th March 1861 John Sutherland son of Robert & June Sutherland of Lissue

3.   Born 27th April 1865 Baptised on 10th September 1865 Robert Henry son of Robert & June Sutherland of Knocknarea

4.   Born 3rd May 1867 Cornelia Georgina daughter of Robert & June Sutherland of Knocknarea Married Mr Flynn and Buried in Magheragall, No children

5.   Born 24th May 1869 James Hamilton son of Robert & June Sutherland of Knocknarea

6.   Born 25th May 1872 Mary daughter of Robert & June Sutherland of Knocknarea Buried in Magheragall Aged 35 24/02/1909 unmarried

7.   Born 20th May 1876  William Samuel Sutherland son of Robert & Jane Sutherland of Knocknarea Married to Elizabeth & both Buried in Magheragal)

8.   Born 26th April 1879 Ida Sophie daughter of Robert & Jane Sutherland of The Parish of Lisburn Unmarried & Buried in Magheragall

Have tired a number of different websites and cannot find info on the 3 marked in bold. Would appreciate help,

ON the 1911 census there is also an Annie which does not appear in the church records for the family

Thanks

magheragall
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 April 12 23:35 BST (UK)
From www.familysearch.org:
6 Feb.1859 Belfast, Robert Sutherland, age 23, son of William, to Jane Caruthers, 22, daughter of Samuel.
Two of the children:
- Amelia Georgina born 3 June 1867 Knocknadona (page 779 in civil register)
- James Hamilton born 4 May 1869 Knocknadona (page 756 in civil register)
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 April 12 23:42 BST (UK)
Link to 1911 census- Annie born c1865 if age is correct- could she be Amelia?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor/Dunluce_Avenue/153323

1901 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Cromac/Magdala_Street/970246
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: Magheragall on Thursday 26 April 12 00:04 BST (UK)
Thanks

Unfortunately not because she married in 1895 to William Flynn

And the census puts them in

1901 Residents of a house 112 in Lisburn Road (Windsor, Antrim)
1911 Residents of a house 4 in Culcavy (Maze, Down)

Thanks for pointing out it was Amelia, just totally misread the old handwriting and got something like Cornelia

thanks

Magheragall

Shall have to go back and look again at records for a birth in 1865
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 26 April 12 00:43 BST (UK)
1901 census- Annie 34, [Georgina 33], May 28, William 24, Ida 20
1911 census- Annie 46, [Georgina 41], William 35, Ida 31

William & Georgina Flynn-
1901- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor/Lisburn_Road/966283
1911- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Maze/Culcavy/250151
Title: Re: sutherlands/ mcknights of killarney st, belfast
Post by: Magheragall on Thursday 26 April 12 13:39 BST (UK)
The Annie is another daughter, born 1st June 1863, did not marry and buried in Magheragall

Just noted I spelt parents name wrong in earlier posts, it is JANE & Robert Sutherland, They had 9 children and not 8

thank you

Magheragall