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Title: Padget family in NZ
Post by: sarlush on Sunday 15 May 11 11:22 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out information on the Padget family in New Zealand. William and Martha Padget arrived in NZ from England in 1859 on the Strathallan with 2 babies (1 born on board) and had a further 11 children in NZ.

Sometime between 1880 and 1882 they travelled to Australia with only 10 of their children. I have been unable to find them arriving in Australia (their youngest died in Australia Jan 1882 so i know they arrived before then.) Does anyone know of any websites i can use to find them arriving in Aus from NZ?

Also i am researching the 3 children who stayed in NZ. One of the sons Samuel Leonard married a Mary Robina Kae. I have been unable to find Mary's parents, however i have found her birth in 1863 but there are no parent names on her birth record. Does anyone know why this might have been? I have found 3 other children born around the same time with the last name Kae but no parents as well. As i am unfamiliar with NZ records i'm not sure why this would be the case. So any help on this would be great!

Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: Sandymc47 on Sunday 15 May 11 12:21 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah

Welcome to Rootschat.
You might be best to put this post on the Australian and New Zealand
sites on here as they will basically be looked at by people with the
knowledge you are seeking.  If you look at the front page you will see
these sites listed. There are lots of people who do look ups at the records
etc.

Hope you find the family

regards Sandymc
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: Janette on Sunday 15 May 11 21:42 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah,

A lot of the early births on BDM's don't name parents on the database.
If you were to purchase the printout of Mary's birth her parents would be named on it,a printout often has more info.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2FqueryEntry.m%3Ftype%3Dbirths

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 15 May 11 22:01 BST (UK)
Hi,

Samuel Leonard and Mary R Padget are buried in Invercargill, along with other Padget's.    Purchasing the death certificate might show the parents of Mary.   Just use the same site that Janette listed above.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0d8d/


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: Janette on Sunday 15 May 11 22:08 BST (UK)
Hi,

There is mention of a William Padget being bankrupt in 1879 and further a court case in 1880,in Paperspast


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0d8f/

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=q&e=-------10--1----0-all

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 15 May 11 22:15 BST (UK)
Leonard was a Tailor and his bankruptcy file and Mary's Probate can be found here:

Samuel's
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0d8h/

Mary's
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0d8g/


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 15 May 11 22:40 BST (UK)
Hi again,

Here is another avenue to try, there are a few Southland Padget's on this free to join site and emailing them

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0d8j/

or you could try the snail method using the White Pages

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0d8i/


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: sarlush on Monday 16 May 11 00:09 BST (UK)
Thank you so much! Great help! I'm going to buy her certificate even though she isn't a direct ancester i am curious.

I didn't know why William and his family packed up and came to Australia but now i know why as he went bankrupt.

I'll be contacting some Padget's now in NZ to see if they are any relation. I was planning a trip to Invercargill later this year and it's strange i didn't even know they were burried there.

Thank you again for all your help! Much appreciated!
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: Julie Key on Wednesday 21 December 11 06:00 GMT (UK)
Hello I am Julie Key a descendant of William Padget and Martha Clapham
I am 4 th generation Padget/Howie/Key{Kaye}Bognuda
I am trying to find who Martha's parents were as I was told by my mother that she was of Jewish descendency ...
my tree goes back to 1660 Padgetts
It seems this site has more to offer on info than ancestory lol
Thanks
Julie
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: sarlush on Wednesday 21 December 11 11:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie!

William and Martha Padget are my 3rd great grandparents. One of their daughters, Elizabeth Padget B: 1866 married a Cooper and a few generations later here i am!

I've done a lot of research on the Padget family and due to the move to New Zealand before Australia it was difficult to track them but i spent many a hours gathering as much information as i could. I've managed to find quite a bit of information with the help of historial societies and museums in NZ as well as QLD records and my Grandfather who remembers his Grandmother Elizabeth Padget and her family very well. He has been a great help in my ancestry research!

I have gone back to 1600 on the Padget side. On the Clapham side i have also gone back to 1600. I have found no link to Jewish ancestry there. Martha Clapham's parents were-

John Clapham born 29 Jan 1810 died 1 Jan 1871 and Harriet Dunnil (sometimes spelt Dunhil) born 20 March 1807. They were born and lived in in Yorkshire England. They had 5 children - Frances 1833, Ann 1835, Elizabeth 1835, Martha 1836 and Thomas 1839. Thomas and his family also went to New Zealand shortly after his sister and her family.

I'm happy to share any other information with you if you want! Feel free to private message me and i'll give you my e-mail address. Or even better let me know your ancestry address and i'll invite you to see my family tree. Might help both of us!

Sarah
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 21 December 11 18:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie :)


Welcome to Rootschat.     Is your mother still alive?, if so you better remove her name from your post, as it is Rootschat policy that we do not post the names of the living.   If you aren't sure how to do that go to your post, click on modify and make the changes then click on Save.

You will need two more posts before your can exchange email addresses with Sarah.   

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: Julie Key on Tuesday 27 December 11 07:10 GMT (UK)
Hi ,
Many thanks for that information.
I am not sure how to pm on this site yet.


Happy Holidays
Julie
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: Julie Key on Tuesday 27 December 11 07:15 GMT (UK)
Hi KHP

Thanks for that.

Cheers
Julie
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Tuesday 27 December 11 07:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie,

Just click on the green scroll .... that tells you if a member is on line or off.   Doesn't matter if they are off line, you can still send a message and they will see it when they next log on.

All the best for 2012.


KHP

Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: Julie Key on Tuesday 27 December 11 07:22 GMT (UK)
Oh  :)

awesome thank you very much KHP

Best Wishes to You to for 2012
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: lillianc on Wednesday 14 March 12 05:32 GMT (UK)
Hi I am also researching my ancestory of Padget/Clapham.  My great grandfather was John James Herbert Clapham who married Muriel (Minnie) Padget.  This Clapham line also connects to John Clapham and Harriet Dunnill. My family line comes from Herbert Clapham the brother of Martha Clapham whom married William Padget.  I am interested in an information on both the Clapham and Padget Families.
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: mallj on Tuesday 29 May 12 12:23 BST (UK)
Hi Julie!

William and Martha Padget are my 3rd great grandparents. One of their daughters, Elizabeth Padget B: 1866 married a Cooper and a few generations later here i am!

I've done a lot of research on the Padget family and due to the move to New Zealand before Australia it was difficult to track them but i spent many a hours gathering as much information as i could. I've managed to find quite a bit of information with the help of historial societies and museums in NZ as well as QLD records and my Grandfather who remembers his Grandmother Elizabeth Padget and her family very well. He has been a great help in my ancestry research!

I have gone back to 1600 on the Padget side. On the Clapham side i have also gone back to 1600. I have found no link to Jewish ancestry there. Martha Clapham's parents were-

John Clapham born 29 Jan 1810 died 1 Jan 1871 and Harriet Dunnil (sometimes spelt Dunhil) born 20 March 1807. They were born and lived in in Yorkshire England. They had 5 children - Frances 1833, Ann 1835, Elizabeth 1835, Martha 1836 and Thomas 1839. Thomas and his family also went to New Zealand shortly after his sister and her family.

I'm happy to share any other information with you if you want! Feel free to private message me and i'll give you my e-mail address. Or even better let me know your ancestry address and i'll invite you to see my family tree. Might help both of us!

Sarah
I am trying to find out information on the Padget family in New Zealand. William and Martha Padget arrived in NZ from England in 1859 on the Strathallan with 2 babies (1 born on board) and had a further 11 children in NZ.

Sometime between 1880 and 1882 they travelled to Australia with only 10 of their children. I have been unable to find them arriving in Australia (their youngest died in Australia Jan 1882 so i know they arrived before then.) Does anyone know of any websites i can use to find them arriving in Aus from NZ?

Also i am researching the 3 children who stayed in NZ. One of the sons Samuel Leonard married a Mary Robina Kae. I have been unable to find Mary's parents, however i have found her birth in 1863 but there are no parent names on her birth record. Does anyone know why this might have been? I have found 3 other children born around the same time with the last name Kae but no parents as well. As i am unfamiliar with NZ records i'm not sure why this would be the case. So any help on this would be great!


:)
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: mallj on Saturday 02 June 12 06:45 BST (UK)
Hi all, i do have some information on the padget family. if you care to ask i will try & help. my husband is a desendant of martha padget & charles johnson. What i am wanting to know is does anyone know when charles arrived in timaru? I am fairly sure martha died in brisbane queensland but she did marry a second time. happy to help.
mallj
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: mallj on Saturday 02 June 12 11:52 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah, Yes i am interested is talking to you about the padgets, i do a bit about them but am very interested in finding more, hoping this reaches you & looking forward to hearing from you.
Mallj
Title: Re: Padget family in NZ
Post by: sarlush on Tuesday 10 July 12 14:25 BST (UK)
Sorry to mallj i have only just checked this board and saw your message.

I have a bit of information on Martha Padget and her first marriage to Charles Johnson. They married in NZ in 1879 in Timaru from what i understand. They had 2 children in NZ and then followed Martha's family to Australia where Charles died not long after arrival. He is burried with Martha's baby sister Frances Padget in Rookwood cemetery in Sydney (we have a pic and details of this buriel plot). Martha went with her family to QLD where 10 years after the death of her first husband she re-married to Albert Henry Malon and had 3 more children. Martha died 5 April 1942 in Brisbane.

I have a lot more information on the Padget's now. If you want to PM me feel free to. I'm also on ancestry and more than happy to share any details!