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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: bevj on Friday 13 May 11 23:15 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help me find out about this medical man who was in Edinburgh at least between 1895 and 1909, please?
My great-grandfather Robert Paterson, b. 1866, married Florence Elmer in Edinburgh in 1907. They had one son, Eric, in 1908 and Robert died in 1909.
I obtained Robert's death certificate recently and saw that the cause of death was certified by G.W. Simla Paterson, M.B. CM. A quick search showed that the gentleman's full name was George William Simla Paterson.
Now I am pretty sure that Dr. Paterson is not a direct member of my Paterson family: my lot were servants, farm workers etc. and I am sure that none of them would have had the financial means to put a child through university and/or medical school. However I was pretty astonished because Eric's full name was Eric SIMLA Paterson :o
My family and I have often wondered where this middle name came from. Eric's mother Florence said that he was named after the town in India but now I am interested to know if in fact he was named after the doctor. Maybe he was a family friend or even Eric's godfather.
With such an unusual name he ought to be easy to trace, but no such luck. All I can find out is that in 1896 Dr. Paterson was a Fellow of the Edinburgh Society of Obstetricians. I have found no record of his birth, marriage death or any census entry for him either in England, Scotland or (a long shot!) India. I would have thought that there might be an obituary for him somewhere, or a Will, but I can find absolutely nothing.
Does anybody have any ideas? It's only really curiosity on my part but I would love to resolve this mystery!
Thanks in advance
Bev
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or any census entry for him either in England, Scotland or (a long shot!) India.
He is on the Scottish 1901 census for 147 Bruntsfield Place Midlothian
George W S Paterson 30 medical GP born Red Sea at Sea
Ellen B 28 b Edinburgh
Margaret Caldwell 23 servant b Cobbinshaw
Annie Davidson 15 servant b Gilmerton
Edinburgh Morningside ED 112 Page 4 Line 4
You could check Scotlands People for their marriage which will give you details of his parents
There are 2 matches for a George Paterson marriage to an Ellen - one in 1891 which seems a bit too early given their 1901 ages. The other is in 1896 but neither match to Midlothian or Edinburgh.
The 1901 has a George and Ellen Paterson living in Lanarkshire and I think that 1896 marriage is theirs as it matches to Lanarkshire
Your best bet would be to find them on the 1911 census to see if they have any children as the birthcert will give Ellen's maiden name
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Thanks, Carole!
I don't know how I missed that.... I think I was looking for somebody a bit older. Can't see them in 1911.
I don't see a marriage or death on SP either.
So if he was born on a ship in the Red Sea, his family may have hailed from India :) That's a start! :)
Thanks
Bev
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Think that the wife's name was Helen (although shown by the form Ellen in the census). Also, 'born Red Sea' would not mean he was born in India. The details below might help (would probably be worth trying to contact the poster)-
"Helen Taylor was married to George Wm. Simla Paterson--my Great Grandmother's brother-in-law's wife.Sorry to ramble.........would love to hear from anyone,who has same names in their trees. thanx--smittys.Most of these people came from either, Kilmany,Edinburgh,Leith,Largo,Dairsie..........the original Alexander Paterson,in my line, was a Hand-loom weaver,from Kilmany, who's allegence?,was listed in my fanily tree,as being with the Clan MacGregor.And my Paterson's,were almost ALL Medical Missionaries,traveling to either Madras,India-or to Hebron"
http://www.yabbers.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?mforum=scotsgen&p=1603
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Also, 'born Red Sea' would not mean he was born in India.
True, but it may well mean that his family was returning from India when he was born :)
Thanks for that link, I'll follow it up!
Bev
Looks like that person hasn't been active on the site for some time :( But you never know!
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There's also some online family details giving parents as David Horne Paterson & Janet Stillie, etc. Although it needs to be verified the details might help you find a connection to your family.
http://www.wardjc.com/people/p000027h.htm#I80237
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This looks like their marriage
1900 PATERSON GEORGE WILLIAM and TAYLOR HELEN BEATTIE at NEWINGTON EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN
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Thank you all!
As I said, I don't think there is a direct family connection - Paterson is a common enough name.
I do think that the doctor may have helped the family in some way.
Florence was left a young widow with a 9-month old baby; by coincidence (or not) she went to work in India shortly afterwards and somebody paid for Eric to go to boarding school. We'll probably never know the circumstances but I'm fairly sure now that we know the origin of granddad's middle name :)
Bev
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G W S Paterson's brother Alexander Paterson b. 1863 Madras d. 1940 Edinburgh was also a medical missionary. William Ewing wrote his biography "Paterson of Hebron, "the Hakim" missionary life in the mountains of Judah" (pub London 1931). He married my relative Margaret Potter Muirhead in 1891 in Lovedale, South Africa
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Thank you for the information, simonp99.
To be truthful I had forgotten about this thread ::)
Going back to Carole's post of 13th May 2011, I have since found that in 1901 my great-granddad was also living in Bruntsfield Place.
I like to think that Dr. Paterson was my great-grandmother's benefactor and that he saved her and my grandfather from poverty and dire straits.
Bev
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Name "Simla" Dr. Paterson was an uncle to my father David Roy Paterson. He, my grandfather ,and a brother were the only children of David Paterson, a medical missionary from Edinburgh to Madras ,India.The family was on a ship,"SIMLA", enroute to Scotland when the son Simla was born and was given the ship's name.
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Hello Shirley
Thank you for this information after such a long time.
So if I understand correctly, George was given the name Simla because he was born on a ship of that name and not because his family had any ties with the town of Simla in India?
And then my grandfather was called Simla after him.
The doctor must have been a close friend of my family. I am wondering whether it would be possible to find Eric's baptism details and find out through them if he was in fact Eric's godfather.
I don't suppose you know if the doctor had any connections with the Isle of Man, which is where Eric was sent to school?
Bev
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Welcome to rootschat Shirley21, I have found this information on your husband's family member.
"PATERSON, Alexander, M.B., C.M., (Edin.). 2 Grange Loan Gardens, Edinburgh, 9. B.1863, Madras. s. of late David Horn Paterson, F.R.C.S.E. ed. Private School, Edinburgh; Royal High School, Edinburgh; Edinburgh University. m. 1891, Margaret Potter, d. of late Henry Donaldson Muirhead. Medical Missionary, 1887 - 1922, at Aden, Lovedale, S.A., Cairo, and Hebron, Palestine; Member, Pensions Appeal Tribunal (Scotland), from 1922. Served during Great War in Alexandria, Kantara and Hebron; Capt., R.A.M.C., 1915-17, at home; 1917-1919, with Egyptian Expeditionary Force. Recreations; golf, tennis."
This information comes from "Scottish Biographies 1938"
regards,
flst
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Hello to bevj and simonp99.
I haven't visited this site for a great long time, but I see my family member (not my father lol) had posted some information to you regarding G.W. Simla Paterson.
Not sure if my family member has been keeping up to date with the posted Paterson messages, but I'm glad the family member took the time to relay the information to you both. I had always found the name Simla to be interesting, and as a small child had asked where the name came from. Interesting to note that he was named after a ship.
I would enjoy learning more about simonp99's relative Margaret Potter Muirhead. I have a Paterson family tree, that was given to me by a family member...but other just the basic names and dates, there's not much more information. I think, my family member is the last of this particular Paterson line. I have not been able to find out if there are any other long-lost relatives out there. Simonp99 is the first one I've come across, that is even distantly related to my Paterson line. Thanks for reading--now that I'm registered at this site, I'll check back in from time to time for future messages.