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Title: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: hockeysticks53 on Tuesday 03 February 09 20:32 GMT (UK)
My grandfather John Baron Lemon b.1883 married to a Jane Cesar b.1886. John lemons mother .was a Eliza Heron b1845 married to Robert Lemon b.1845.Jane  Cesars parents where a James Cesar b 1855 and a Jane cesar b 1856.  The Cesar family lived in Agnes Street,belfast 1911. The Lemon family living in glenfarne Street, Belfast 1911.........
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 03 February 09 21:44 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat.

Someone else is looking for the same family:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,357848.0.html

This is posted in Look up requests but you haven't really asked for any information. Is there something we can help you find?
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 04 February 09 09:10 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   I did a bit of a look-up and found a remarkable coincidence. I have a John Baron Lemon born 10 Apr 1866 to John Lemon and Mary Barron (sic) in Belfast No.3.
   I also found that John Lemon married Mary Barron on 10 Mar 1861 in St Anne's, Shankill, Belfast

Regards
   
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: hockeysticks53 on Wednesday 04 February 09 17:22 GMT (UK)
thankyou for your message, I am very new to this and getting help from a work collegue who I will pass this info onto.  I am wondering could this be a brother of Robert Lemon born 1845 and died 1908,my great grandfather. You gave john b Lemon born 1866,and married 1861 - is this  date of marriage mistyped.  Any help would be appreciated.  I know robert and his wife Eliza heron b. 1845 had three other sons George b.1875,robert b.1876,William b.1880.and John barron 1883.  I know nothing about the brothers and sisters of robert Lemon and Eliza  nee Heron his wife.......Maybe you can help once again thanks
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 04 February 09 17:27 GMT (UK)
The information posted by kingkerswell earlier is that John Lemon married Mary Barron in 1861 and that their son John Baron Lemon was born 1866.
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 04 February 09 18:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks Aghadowey. Siblings of John Baron Lemon were
William Thomas Lemon b 17 Jul 1868
Sarah Elizabeth Lemon b 9 Nov 1873
Alexander B 29 Oct 1879.

 I also found a Robert James Lemon who married Esther Heron on 29 Oct 1909 in Comber Non -Subscribing Presbyterian Church, Newtownards.

I used the term"Coincidence" as the names Lemon and to a lesser extent Heron are fairly unusual in N.Ireland.

Regards
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: hockeysticks53 on Thursday 05 February 09 18:46 GMT (UK)
I have looked in more detail with reference to JOHN BARON lEMON  and married to a MaryBaron - could this be the brother of my Great grandfather ROBERT hence the name baron being brought in to the family name.  Do you have a date for the death of JOHN BARON LEMON BORN IN 1866. Are you related to the john B Lemon family.  Thankyou for all your help. Being such unusal surnames makes me thinks these are all connected
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 05 February 09 19:13 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   There is still some confusion. The names I found were John Lemon who married Mary Barron. John is not recorded as having a second name "Baron". Their son, also John was given the name "Baron" as was a common Irish custom possibly to please the Grandmother.

   I have no connection with this family. I do this as a hobby as do many others, some of whom have helped me with my family tree.

Regards
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: squires on Sunday 23 May 10 04:25 BST (UK)
Hi everyone
I have Lemon's in my family tree and I was wondering if there was a relationship with the people in this thread.

My G. Grandmother was Sarah Ann Lemon (c1864) married a William Thompson (07/06/1881) at Trinity C of I church. I also believe there was an Agnes Street connection with her family.  Her father was called William. The only baffling thing I have about her is that in the 1911 census she has that she was born in Co. Donegal but I have not found out any other family connection with that County.

Hopefully the 1901 census, when it comes out, might hold some information on her father and/or mother  (if they were still alive; they weren't in the 1911 one)

Squires :)
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: asp1 on Thursday 22 July 10 19:47 BST (UK)
My grandmother was Agnes Lemon before she married my grandfather Thomas Black.  Her sister was Bella Lemon (possibly Isobel)  They lived in Mossvale Street, Shankill ward before and after her marriage post 1911. I have not been able to trace any other information and wondered if there is any connection to the Lemon family you refer to.
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: hockeysticks53 on Friday 23 July 10 15:02 BST (UK)
My grandmother was Agnes Lemon before she married my grandfather Thomas Black.  Her sister was Bella Lemon (possibly Isobel)  They lived in Mossvale Street, Shankill ward before and after her marriage post 1911. I have not been able to trace any other information and wondered if there is any connection to the Lemon family you refer to.
My grandmother was Agnes Lemon before she married my grandfather Thomas Black. Her sister was Bella Lemon (possibly Isobel) They lived in Mossvale Street, Shankill ward before and after her marriage post 1911. I have not been able to trace any other information and wondered if there is any connection to the Lemon family you refer to.
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: hockeysticks53 on Friday 23 July 10 15:07 BST (UK)
at the moment, i cant see an agnes lemon in my tree but looking in the ulster Covenant an agnes lemon lived at 35 Mossvale Street,My g.grandad  was a Robert lemon  born1845.  They all lived in the Shankill area.  My grandad was a John Baron Lemon born 1883.  Have you any names like this in your tree.
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: asp1 on Friday 23 July 10 17:59 BST (UK)
Agnes was born Dec.1884, her father's name was John and she had about 8 brothers/sisters, including John, Robert, Willliam,Ellen, Matilda,Mary,Violet and Bella.  Bella married a Joseph Gray.  I don't have any information about the other sibling marriages nor do I have Agnes' mother's name.
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: hockeysticks53 on Saturday 24 July 10 10:48 BST (UK)
I have looked at a old family bible, here are dates that I have and you can see if any match up..GGgrandad Robert Lemon, married Eliza Heron. Robert was born in 1845 died 10.09.1908.  Eliza was born 1845 died 23.01.1918.  Children,george 8.4.1875,robert 11.12.1876, william 5.4.1880, john barron 11.5.1883.  George died 29.11.1876,  My grand father was John.  They lived in the shankill area,  In the 1911 census eliza lived in Glenfame Street,Shankill Ward.   also have a copy of a  Robert married to Matilda 1911 census living in 10 rusholme street, shankill.   Most of the lemons in my family are buried in the belfast city cemetry..  Do you live in northern ireland.  it would make it much easier, as i live in wales....please can you see any link?
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: asp1 on Sunday 01 August 10 14:16 BST (UK)
I can't make a connection between the two Lemon families. My grandmother's brother John was born 1874 and married a Margaret Bennett, Robert born 1879 and married Jane Cavan, William born 1881 (spouse unknown).  I thought Lemon was an unusal surname but maybe not.
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: head-hunter on Tuesday 25 January 11 21:30 GMT (UK)
john lemon and mary barron were my great grand parents, john barron lemon was my great uncle have more info.(also could u help me in getting intouch with hockeysticks53 as i am new 2 this and finding difficult 2 use). thks head-hunter
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 25 January 11 21:37 GMT (UK)
hockeysticks53 hasn't been online since July but hopefully they will come back soon and see your post. Once you've made 3 posts you'll be able to send and receive PMs (personal messages).
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: head-hunter on Sunday 30 January 11 15:02 GMT (UK)
my grandfather was alexander lemon, the youngest male son of john lemon and mary baron. the robert lemon and eliza herron was the brother and sister in law of john lemon, my great grandfather. have more info, grave sites etc. many thanks, head-hunter  :)
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: head-hunter on Saturday 05 February 11 17:05 GMT (UK)
 : hi,hockeysticks53 in 1875 both robert lemon and eliza herron ; john lemon and mary barron lived at no 4 and 81 westmoreland st. roberts first male child was named george after robert and johns father=george as did johns first male also called george this= george died 1937 there is a story with his death,roberts son died 1876 and is enterned in belfast city cementry;have much more to help you with,but maybe you have allready have got there, but if so you have missed me for we are surely related hope so  :D hope you are well and see this post bye heres hopeing =head-hunter.
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: head-hunter on Saturday 05 February 11 17:34 GMT (UK)
hi asp1 there is a strong connection to mossvale st. glenfarne st do you know of any american connections because  in a family death insert it said american- news papers please copy. hope so bye for now. :)
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: hockeysticks53 on Monday 09 May 11 22:11 BST (UK)
hi hockeysticks here, just found your notes reference lemon, heron cesar from belfast, look forward to any news you would have as i am new to this as well.
Title: heron,Cesar lemon surnames belfast
Post by: hockeysticks53 on Tuesday 10 May 11 17:43 BST (UK)
Could  Head-hunter who  left a message in July 2010, please contact roots again as you may have information I need.  thankyou
Title: Re: Cesar,Lemon,Heron surnames Belfast
Post by: asp1 on Tuesday 07 June 11 21:36 BST (UK)
In reply to Head Hunter, I don't know of any american connection but if you have any information connecting Isobel or Agner Lemon of Mossvale Street  I d be most grateful, I have traced the elder brothers and sisters births/marriages etc. but cannot trace the births for Isobel and Agnes, it may be that their father John had remarried and their mother was the second wife.