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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lancashire => England => Lancashire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: john1979 on Tuesday 10 May 11 14:03 BST (UK)
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Hello
I have just found out that some relatives called Samuel, Isabella and child Hilda Lingard, Lived at 47 Henderson Street, Levenshulme in 1909
Samuel Lingard was a Boot and Shoe Salesman in 1909.
I can't find them anywhere in the 1911 census.
I am wondering if anyone can find them after 1909 at the same address.
They may be in a Dirctory?
Cheers John Melling
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Hello John
I can find no trace of them in 1911 using various spellings of the last name, however I did find a marriage which looks like theirs.
Samuel Lingard to Isabella Fidler
Jun qtr. 1908 in Chorley, Lancs.
Ref. 8E 1123.
Found a birth for Hilda in June qtr. 1909 in Chorlton, Lancs. Ref. 8C 888.
Checked the passenger lists just in case, but again, nothing, so it's a bit of a mystery.
Checked all the houses in Henderson Street and nothing.
All I can assume is that the last name has been transcribed totally different or they were inbetween places..
Mike
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Hello John
Following up on Mike's findings and playing about with the search fields on the 1911 census . There is a Hilda LINGARD, 3yrs of age together with a Samuel in the same address. Address being in Warwickshire.
No Isabella is showing up at the address.
On free BMD there is a Isabella LINGARD in the deaths,March quarter 1909 aged 44 yrs. Registered in Birmingham and I understand that is Warwickshire. Seems coincidental :-\
Regards
Eric
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I wonder if there is a connection to this couple,
1st of December 1897,St Peters Chorley,
Sarah Ann Lingard,aged 28 spinster of 20 Springs Road,
James Henry Gent, aged 26,boot and clog maker,batchelor of 71 Botany Brow Chorley,
Grooms father ,James Gent, reed maker,
brides father ,Thomas Lingard,
witness ,Ralph Gent,Elizabeth Lingard and John Lingard,
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There is a marriage for a Hilda ,in 1930,Pendlebury,
spouse isJames Lenord ,but father is Thomas a collier ,deceased
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There is a death for a Samuel Lingard ,of 25 Norfolk Street ,Oldham in 1926,aged 75,
Probate was granted to Charles Lingard spinner,
quite a bit of money £1022 pounds,10 shillings
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Hello John
Following up on Mike's findings and playing about with the search fields on the 1911 census . There is a Hilda LINGARD, 3yrs of age together with a Samuel in the same address. Address being in Warwickshire.
No Isabella is showing up at the address.
This child seems likely to be Hilda Bertha LINGARD whose birth was registered in Warwick registration district, Mar qtr 1908.
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Hi all,
the Samuel Lingard that married Isabella Fidler in Chorley appears to have moved to Edinburgh by 1916.
there is an army Service Record for him on Ancestry. Service no. 225155, ASC, MT
Yes, this is him, it also has as next of kin:
daughters Hilda born 20/501909 Manchester
Mabel born 21/2/1912 Edinburgh
He appears to have survived the War and been discharged
So Scotland's People might have him on Scottish 1911 census. And they should have a birth for Mabel.
Let me know if you want any more details of the army record.
:) Barbara
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Great find,
I have spent hours looking for him in trade directories and he isn't listed in Warwickshire ,there are plenty of them but definitely not him,
so now we know he went North rather than south,
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In view of what Barbara has said, I had a look on Scotlandspeople (I had 2 credits left) and found this:
Samuel Lingard. age 27. district of Portobello, Edinburgh.
Unfortunately you'll have to view the actual return to get more information and that's 5 credits.
Mabel's birth is also there, registered in Portobello, but there was no image available.
Mike
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His address on enlisting in 1916 was 69 Willowbrae Rd, Edinburgh. Here's a few details from the record.
It says he married Isabella Fidler in Chorley, 17 June 1908. He enlisted 11 December 1916 and gave as occupation Motor Driver. Must have got fed up of seling shoes! I think it says he was a Caterpillar driver in the army. He was born in Preston. Not much on his service history, but it looks like he was stationed in Egypt, until 15 November 1919, attached to the Balloon Coy.
And he had a 34 inch chest, a scar on the back of his his right wrist, and two moles under his right armpit ;D
Just noticed another child, they must have added this after he enlisted - William, born 13 July 1917 at Willowbrae Rd Edinburgh.
:) Barbara
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Hello Everyone
Thanks very much for the info you have found upto now.. I have been trying to locate them for several years
After recieving a birth certificate today for Hilda Lingard... it gave me a extra clue , hence my message on this site.
I spoke to my friend who is also a related to these Lingards, She was really happy we have made a little progress.
Supposedly Samuel and family, went over to Ireland? and they had a shop... which was visited to by a relation c 1940s?
So maybe one day i will find their recent decendants.
Thanks for the help so far
John Melling