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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Roscommon => Topic started by: treslade on Tuesday 10 May 11 12:14 BST (UK)
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If possible I am looking to understand the place names in Roscommon, so I can find the right place to search, as the leads I have followed before, lead no where.
I have Francis Farrell married in 1855 to Bridget Gallagher ( from Mayo) in Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales.
He must still be in Ireland in the 1851 census ( because I can't find him in Wales/England).
On his wedding certificate he has Father- Bernard Farrell, schooltearcher.
Witnesses Alice Farrell and James Dunkins, they marry in St. Mary's Catholic Chapel in Bangor.
Wales 1861 census; Francis Farrell - born - Roscommon.
Wales 1871 census; Francis Farrell - born - KayKill Korky.
Wales 1881 census; Francis Farrell - born - Ireland.
Wales 1891 census; Francis Farrell - Born - Ballingar.
Birthplaces are, I guess written as the place names sounded....I live in England and although I think KayKill Korky maybe Kilcorkey, I can't guess what Ballingar maybe. If anyone has any ideas where I could start a fresh search for his baptism, I would be very Grateful.
Regards, lee
ps I have just found a sister to Francis called Alice Farrell born about 1836.
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You can view the RC parishes and notes of dates that are available on the Irish Times website - see : RC Parishes, Co. Roscommon (http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/roscommonrc.htm)
Note : not all the RC parishes have details back as far as the baptism of Francis in c1830
see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
You can search for townlands and towns at : www.thecore.com/seanruad
Some Co. Roscommon parish records are available on the pay-website of the Irish Family History foundation at www.rootsireland.ie, but since Farrell is quite a common surname you would probably need to establish the correct parish first.
Shane
previous posts for reference :
1831 Francis Farrell son of Bernard Farrell, schoolteacher? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,488533.msg3464429.html#msg3464429)
Help to find Francis Farrell & Bridget Ann Gallagher families please (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,488093.msg3460544.html#msg3460544)
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Thanks Shane,
I will search the links you sent, the previous posts are also mine, this may well be the last time I try to find him..... someone has just been over to County Mayo, Ireland, to search for the Gallaghers - without success, so this will be Francis Farrell's last shot in Roscommon ( mind you, I always say that, leave it a few months, then search again - I always think - we will find it one day...)
Lee.
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There is a town named Ballinagare also spelt Bellanagare in Roscommon
It is 30km approx north west from Roscommon Town and near Frenchpark
There is a parish named Kilcorkey just south of it also
The only family living in Kilcorkey, Bellanagare on the 1901 census are named Kennedy
The only Farrell in Bellanagare was a single 72 year old Patrick Farrell
he may well be a brother or cousin as his date of birth would be 1829
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hope this helps
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myluck,
Thank you so much for the information, it helps narrow the search, I still find the records for Ireland hard to find or access. francis had a son called Patrick, so the Patrick you found could tie in at some level, I did find a sister for Francis, Alice Farrell born 1836, she also married in Wales in 1858. The farrell's father Bernard Farrell was a school master, who I thought would leave more traces than he has.
I will look at Ballinagare and see if I can find anything,
Lee
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Is the 1891 listing Ballinagare?
Roger
Sorry,I think you already know this.I came across the thread with the print out in front of me when I was. looking for James Farrell of Caellepa,Bangor who I assume is the son of Francis.I am searching a Margaret Jones who listed James as her uncle in the early 1900s
Apologies again
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My grandfather was James Patrick Farrell son of Francis and Bridget of Bangor, so it seems Mary was his older sister. I also was born Mary Farrell!
Only just found your message, can I be any help? I have visited Kilkorkey in Ireland but not been able to find any records, but I keep trying,
Regards Mary
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Welcome to Rootschat,Mary.
I was helping someone a few years ago to explain the presence of Ferrell/Farrell in his family name.It seemed to trace back to an Adelaide Mary Farrell born circa 1850,but there the trail went cold.If you have any knowledge of this lady I would certainly still be interested.
Alternatively,what information,if any,are you seeking in case I,or others,can help?
Regards
Roger
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Hi Roger
Thanks for your reply. I have not heard of Adelaide in our family and my grandfather's sister was born in 1859 in Bangor.
Just interested in hearing anything about my family and find any relatives I have not traced up until now.
Regards
Mary
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Hello Mary,
Nice to hear from you.
I have the children of Francis Farrell and Bridget Anne (nee Gallagher) as follows......
Margaret 1856, Mary 1959, Bernard 1861, John 1863, Alice 1865, Alice 1867, James Patrick 1869, Ann 1873 and Ellen 1873 (twins), Srah 1873 and Joseph 1880.
I have your grandfather marrying Edith Jane Mary Marchant in 1899, they had 6 boys and one girl ( if I have it right).
I can't find any further back than the father's names on the wedding certificate of Francis and Bridget. My friend who is your cousin, went to Bangor and saw the Catholic priest and some of the baptism entries. I have tried to trace Francis' sister Alice but lose her, she married Edward Towland in Bangor in 1858. Also tried to track some of the other Farrell marriages around the same time in Bangor, trying to see if they were related.
Any thoughts?
Lee
Roger....
Adelaide Mary Farrell born circa 1850, did she marry? and do you know where she was born......there is an Adelaide Mary Farrell in New South Wales in 1935?
Lee
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I don't know where Adelaide was born(circa 1850),but I think she is listed as just "Miss Farrell" in a draper's shop in Liverpool in 1871,where I suspect she met David(Raymond or Raiment or similar) Jones.I have never traced a marriage,but I think they had a number of children,including one in Ireland(from memory Emily Frances in Dublin 1878) where the mother is described as Adelaide Mary Farrell Jones.
Regards
Roger
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Hi Roger,
I found the family in 1891, it took me longer to find them than I thought, Adelaide was born in Sligo. Do you have them in that census? , David is a draper born in 1845 -Abergele, Wales: Adelaide born in 1850 in Sligo, Ireland, children David C, Emily, Robert and a cousin called Lydia Vick.
......Church Lane, Harpurhey, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
What census return do you have? Hope this helps.....
Lee
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Thankyou,Lee.Somewhere,as it was quite a while ago,and it was for someone else,I have most,if not all of the info I require from the 1871 census onward.It's Adelaide's origins that remained a mystery.I remember a Sligo reference,but could make nothing of it.
Lydia Vick(or similar-the original is not exactly clear) is also a mystery.
Regards
Roger
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Hi again Lee,
I haven't found my paper data cache yet,but having had a quick search again,I think Alice's husband Edward dies in 1860,registered under Tollan(!),and Alice remarries in 1861,registered under Tolan.I don't think I pursued it as far as identifying which were the pairings from the entry.
I also have information on Patrick Farrell,,who as a widower,married Mary Ann Dorkin,awidow,in 1847 in Bangor.He is given as a fishmonger of Garden Street with father John Farrell,a farmer.
It is perhaps worth noting that Edward Towland when he married Alice in 1858 gave his occupation as fishmonger.
Regards
Roger
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Thank you Roger, for the information about Edward Towland/Tollan, I will look into it.
As for your Sligo link, I struggle to find anything I want in Ireland, I see lots of names but then can't cross reference them. Sorry I couldn't do more. But I will keep my eyes open.
Lee
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I will carry on looking for my hoard of print-outs in case there was anything relevant to Bernard Farrell amongst it.
Regards
Roger
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That is very kind of you, he is listed on the 2 marriage certificates as school master.
Thank you, Lee
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My grandfather was James Patrick Farrell son of Francis and Bridget of Bangor, so it seems Mary was his older sister. I also was born Mary Farrell!
Only just found your message, can I be any help? I have visited Kilkorkey in Ireland but not been able to find any records, but I keep trying,
Regards Mary
Kilcorkey not Kilkorkey!
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Kilcorkey is in Roscommon http://www.logainm.ie/en/2078
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http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0551
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hallmark....
Thank you for the link, I just had a quick look, and they look really interesting.......
Lee
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hallmark....
Thank you for the link, I just had a quick look, and they look really interesting.......
Lee
No problem!
You don't have to read every one just the 1st name, Francis.
Search is Basic but you can do Baptism 1830 and then 1831/32 etc
You're lucky as there are some Burials too. Bookmark the Pages where you find anything!!!
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hallmark,
Thanks again, not sure about bookmarking the page - I will have to ask a grandchild to help me, some older people can take to the computer like a duck to water - and others just don't. And that is me. But I will manage, Lee