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Help!! I know John Parsons Roberts was born on 12.11.1851 in Abbey Foregate Shrewsbury and have found the birth record on Genes Reunited but how do I find out which church holds the record as it gives a Volumn number XV111 and page number 171 but where do I go from there?
Kind Regards
Pat
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That's a reference to the GRO Indexes.
So when (if) you want the birth certificate, you simply say:
December qtr 1851, Shrewsbury district, Vol 18, Page 171
And they find it!
Website for online ordering is www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Alternatively, try Shropshire Council:
www.shropshire.gov.uk/registrar.nsf/ and click on Copy Certificates (Left Hand Side)
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Thankyou I understand now but is it possible to view the parish record where the birth was recorded? Or didn't that happen in 1851? Sorry very new to all this.
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To view the parish records you need to know which parish. (i.e. which church).
Not many parish registers can be viewed online - unless you subscribe to something like The Genealogist.
Shropshire Family History Society will sell you copies!
But you could try FamilySearch.org
What you have been looking at are the GRO (General Record Office) Indexes. All registered births from July 1837 should be on there.
Once you have the reference you have to pay to get the Birth Certificate.
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The christening has been transcribed on FamilySearch https://www.familysearch.org (free to search) although the church is not specified:
John Parsons ROBERTS, son of John ROBERTS and Eleanor, christened 2 Jan 1852, Shrewsbury.
At least 2 other children of John and Eleanor are christened in Shrewsbury around this time, including a Lucy Hayman ROBERTS (at St Giles & Holy Cross), so this marriage looks possible for the parents:
Marriages Dec 1849
(possible spouses)
HAYMAN Eleanor
ROBERTS John
Shrewsbury 18 244
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Thank you both so much.
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If I've found births on familysearch.org with the same indexing project number and source film number does that mean they are definitely related?
How can I then view that source to see if there is any more information?
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I can't find a death record for William Roberts b 1.2.1821 and bapised on the same day but he doesn't appear on the next census in 1841.
Is there somewhere else I could look? I've been looking on familysearch.org
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Where did you find William's date of birth?
As I understand things, Family Search and Parish Records only show baptisms - not births!
If he died pre-September 1837 you will need to look at Parish Registers.
And for that you need to know which parish.
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Hi
I was looking at familysearch.org and on two family members it gave me birth and Bap/Christening dates as different dates. It was only William that the date was the same so I assumed he died soon after birth plus he wasn't on the next census record.
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If I've found births on familysearch.org with the same indexing project number and source film number does that mean they are definitely related?
How can I then view that source to see if there is any more information?
It doesn't definitely mean that they were related, because theoretically there could be 2 couples with the same names christening children in the same place at the same time. However, it's usually a good guide, and you can use the censuses to check out whether there was only one couple named John and Eleanor ROBERTS in the area.
To view the source, you would have to look at the original parish register, which (in this case) has been microfilmed: Shrewsbury Archives should hold a copy, or you can order it (for a fee) to view at your local LDS centre. If you're very lucky, a kind RootsChatter may be able to look it up for you; however, it is unlikely to show much more information than the transcript.
I can't find a death record for William Roberts b 1.2.1821 and bapised on the same day but he doesn't appear on the next census in 1841.
Remember that on the 1841 census, ages of adults over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5 years: 19 year-old William should therefore be recorded as aged 15.
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That's interesting about the 1841 census. Thanks