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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cheshire => England => Cheshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: MasterMariner on Monday 02 May 11 20:37 BST (UK)
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Hi,
In the 1911 Census there is a James Hughes listed as being a Private with the Cheshire Regiment in Barracks at Chester. I have contacted the Cheshire Regiment research section but they really need his service number and they said that it should appear on an Absent Voters List.
Would there be copies of this list in Northwich Library, or do any of you members out there have have access to this list? I don't even know what format it takes - does it list absent voters by street and residence or is it just a list of names?
The person in question would have been my wife's great uncle but he died in WW1 but we don't know where, when and how. Therefore his service number would greatly assist in further research.
Known details.....
James Mason Hughes (the Mason does not always appear in Census returns)
Born Northwich, Cheshire 1893/4
Parents William H and Annie Hughes
Residence in 1901 was 17 Meadow Street, Northwich
Residence in 1911 was Jubilee Street, Northwich.
Can anyone offer and suggestions or help?
Thanks
MM
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Hi Master Mariner,
Can't help with Regimental Number, suggest you ring Northwich Library to see if they have an "Absent Voters Roll". I do think I recognise James's father though............William Henry Hughes b.abt 1862 bap 24 AUG 1862 at St Helen's, Witton, son of James Charles Hughes and Hannah Pemberton?
odessa.
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Hi MM,
There is a tree on Ancestry with James Mason Hughes and his family on.
He is down as being killed in action on the 3rd May 1917 in France.
There is also details of his marriage. He was married in Dundee according to the tree.
Could he have been in a Scottish Regiment?
May be this is him on the commonwealth war graves site
James Hughes Private Royal Scots Fusiliers 1st Bn 3/5/1917 service no 20653 Arras Memorial
Hope this is of help to you.
Cathy
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Hi Odessa and Fishweb,
Fishweb - The family tree listing James Mason Hughes as marrying in Dundee is a red herring I'm afraid - I've already pursued (ie been in contact) that one and found that it's probably a case of mistaken identity.
Odessa - You are spot on with William Henry Hughes, James Charles Hughes and Hannah Pemberton. Are you connected or have you just been diligent in your research?
Will try Northwich Library shortly as the family would like to clear the when, where and how etc.
Thanks
MM
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Hi Master Mariner,
A little research for a friend and a very tenuous link into the Deakin family via the Duttons and the Hughes made me look at the Hughes tree in Northwich, not in minute detail, but I do have some local references.
I think if you can fix on a date for the death of James Mason Hughes, there will be a piece in the Northwich Guardian, the Great War was well documented from a local point of view.
If I can help with any oddments you are short of for the Hughes in Northwich, send me a P.M. and I'll see what I have. I went back as far as the marriage of Thomas Caleb Hughes and Olive Brandreth in 1819
odessa.
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Hi MM
Have you made any progress with finding James Mason Hughes records?
I'm just asking as he is mentioned in 3 local newspaper extracts published in Alan Lowe's book "A Call to Arms" The book covers the period July 1914 to Dec 1914. I'd be happy to send you details if you're interested.
Regards Genna.
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Hi Genna,
I meant to close this thread but I'm glad I didn't after you write that James was mentioned in a book! For some reason the family had always assumed that James Mason Hughes had perished in WWI but after trying to establish his regimental number I found the mentions in the newspaper with the required number and, to back it up, it listed his parents names and address - which confirmed my findings. He did indeed survive the war and went on to marry and lived in Grimsby. The question that it didn't answer though was why did his sister and niece's family all belief that died in action? We will never know!
Anyway, I'd be pleased about any info in the book that you mentioned as there's relatives in the US who have been following this saga.
Best regards
MM
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Hi MM
Glad you found James with his family in Grimsby. I did as well via his dob and the 1939 register when I couldn't find him on the Northwich Roll of Honour.
James's inclusion in the book is about three letters he wrote home to friends and family which were summarised in the Northwich Chronicle. The first appears in the Saturday Oct 10th 1914 edition. It was brief and just mentioned that Pte Richard William Chandler of Northwich had been recommended for the VC. The second mention is in the Chronicle of 31st Oct. in which it says that he is of "C" Company the Cheshire Regt and had been wounded. He talks about stopping a bullet and being unsure how long he will be in hospital then goes on to give a brief description of his time at the front. His last mention covers a page and half and was from the Chronicle on Saturday 19th Dec. He is described as Pte J. M. Hughes of "C" Company of the 1st Cheshire Regt.. He wrote home from Crumpsall Hospital, Manchester where he was being treated for a wound to his left leg and to his left eye which it was feared he might lose. It mentioned that he was in the Reserves when he was called up and working at Illingham. He goes on to describe his arrival in France on the 20th August.
I can PM you the rest of his letter if you are interested.
Regards Genna
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Hi Genna,
Been away for a few days hence the delay in replying. I believe James died in 1946 and one of his sons died in action in the RAF in 1943.
I would be interested in reading the full accounts. I managed to get an offer of a month's subscription for a pound with the Find My Past site and found some of what you mention there, however, upon saving the pages for future reference I found them to be virtually unreadable when the saved file was reopened. Someone on another forum also linked me to the Regiments War Diaries for the start of the war up to Christmas which was interesting reading.
Do you have any connection with the Hughes family?
Thanks for the time and effort. Best regards
MM
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Hi MM
I will PM you the rest of the account shortly.
I don't have any connection to the Hughes family. I'm a volunteer researcher at Weaver Hall museum which was previously Northwich Union Workhouse. My interest lies with the workhouse and Alan Lowe's book contains several reference to it. I have the kindle edition so it's easy to search for names, places etc and just thought you'd be interested in the entries for James Hughes.
Regards Genna
ps Crumpsall hospital, like many others, was once a workhouse!
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Hi Genna,
Many thanks for the PM with the info and, more to the point, for your time on this matter. You have been very helpful. One last thing, what are the full details of the book that you got the information from as it sounds interesting.
Best regards
MM
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Hi MM
The book has sold out locally but can be bought
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Call-Arms-Alan-Lowe/dp/1496981103/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1477751204&sr=8-1&keywords=alan+lowe+a+call+to+arms
There may be further references in the local newspapers of the period about James Hughes but unfortunately neither the Northwich Guardian or Chronicle have been digitised though there are microfiche copies in Northwich library.
Regards Genna
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Hi Genna,
Thank you for that info - guess what I'm getting for Christmas!
Thanks for all your help.
Best regards
MM