RootsChat.Com

General => Armed Forces => World War Two => Topic started by: Nick The Duck on Monday 02 May 11 12:49 BST (UK)

Title: COMPLETED - Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Nick The Duck on Monday 02 May 11 12:49 BST (UK)
Hello  ;D

Please can someone help identify this medal ribbon bar. I would like to know if it is English or German (or other). I would like to know what medal it goes with.

It is 50mm long (2 inches) and 12mm wide (half an inch).

Hope someone can help.

King regards,

Nick The Duck
Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Redroger on Monday 02 May 11 13:17 BST (UK)
Don't know it, but the colours have a look of WW1 Germany to me.
Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Nick The Duck on Monday 02 May 11 13:18 BST (UK)
Thanks, redroger. Perhaps I should put a post on the WW1 forum?
Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Redroger on Monday 02 May 11 13:23 BST (UK)
Yes I would try that Nick, perhaps to be more specific I think they are the colours of the flag of the Imperial GErman Navy.
Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Nick The Duck on Monday 02 May 11 14:27 BST (UK)
Thanks, Redroger, I have put this post on the WW1 forum as well. (I hope the administrator will forgive me for having two similar posts!)

Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: neil1821 on Monday 02 May 11 14:45 BST (UK)
I can't immediately see any match among British or German medals.
The nearest I can find is the Shanghai Municipal Council Emergency Medal from 1937  ::)
http://www.qcmilitaria.com/shem1.jpg
Awarded to police, fire brigade, volunteer corps and civilians for service in and around the International Settlement during fighting between Chinese and Japanese

Any Shanghai connections?!
Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Nick The Duck on Monday 02 May 11 14:51 BST (UK)
Thanks neil1821.  I don't have any Shanghai connections!  ;D

I've looked at the link and the medal ribbon is close but not exact (so no cigar for you!). The Shanghai medal ribbon has gold edging which my medal ribbon bar lacks. Also, the Shanghai medal ribbon stripes are exactly equal width, whereas my medal ribbon bar has two red bands that are slightly wider than the central beige band.

Thank you for trying, I very much appreciate it.

Nick The Duck
Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Redroger on Monday 02 May 11 19:50 BST (UK)
Try Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross, WW2
Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Nick The Duck on Monday 02 May 11 20:13 BST (UK)
Hello Redroger. I've done some research about the ribbon for the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross (WW2) and it is quite different from mine. It has a red central stripe, then beige bands either side, and then black bands on the edge. Is there more than one ribbon for the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross?

 ???

NTD
Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Redroger on Monday 02 May 11 20:18 BST (UK)
Nick, I found this by Googling WW1WW2 German medals. The3 colours are the same, and  I think it is the ribbon sewn on the tunic when in action, and the medal is not being worn.
Roger
Title: Re: Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: Nick The Duck on Tuesday 03 May 11 09:02 BST (UK)
To neil1821.

Following your post, I looked at several other pictures of the Shanghai Municipal Council medal and found that some of them do not have gold edging on the ribbon. There is also a slight variation in the width of the colour bands on some ribbons. The image I found here was a good match for my ribbon bar:

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/shanghai-municipal-council-1937-emergency-medal-w

So, my apologies to you, and thank you very much for identifying my medal ribbon bar!

Quack!

Nick The Duck
Title: Re: COMPLETED - Can you identify this medal ribbon bar, please?
Post by: neil1821 on Tuesday 03 May 11 10:42 BST (UK)
No problem Nick.
I can't say that there are no other possibilities anywhere in the world that may match, but that's the only one I can see that may reasonably have been awarded to a British recipient.
Up to you to figure out a possible recipient I suppose.  :)